Other types, share your stories with INTPs

Those guys r weird.

 

Too weird.

 

I had a male friend for about 2 years who we shared the same birthday and he was an INTP and in love with me and I kind of knew it but I didn't feel the same way and I was pretty young so I just kinda let the friendship continue and I just remember him being extremely passive generally and unemotional and one time I complained about not being able to connect with him emotionally and he seemed incapable of it and he just kinda was like "I don't know how sorry" and it was the most awkward conversation ever.

I dated an INTP who I was super into and we broke up because he showed up for a date at my house but instead of pulling into the driveway just kept driving and I didn't hear from him for like two days and he apologized and said he "got really nervous" and we basically didn't talk again after that. He confessed to me that he found out that year at age 23 he had been using can openers wrong and subsequently I realized so had I.

 

INTP friends always have an explanation. Always. And it's always elaborate and structured. Always. And there's always a quizzical look. And when having meals with them, best to have a pen and paper and a smartphone on hand because conversations about anything and everything would be endless, and often require visualization because the perspectives are different. Chatboxes with them are links and links of references and funny emojis. Emo conversations are different too. They have a way of relaying emotional experiences as though it were a puzzle and they would explain its mechanisms. It's some of the most interesting conversations I've ever had. Arguments are not arguments at all. And even then it's super fun. When they're stressed, they space out. It shows on their faces too, usually that space under their eyes. The artistic side is so structured and disciplined, almost differently creative but intriguing nonetheless. It's easier to have discussions with them because it usually leads towards a resolution. But the workplace is messy. They think it's art. But when they do clean up, it's always a spree. Anyway, they're cool.

 

NTP here. I find that when interacting with other NTPs you have to know the same things they know or you're gonna get lost very quickly.

Though I have some general issues socializing so I dunno.

 

Equal parts Quiet and Zany. They'll make a joke that's too obtuse for me to not lose my shit over. Specialized knowledge to understand the joke.

I love to do story time with them. Ask them about something super interesting to them and let them explain it in detail

 

Then have drinks and it gets weird! which is fun

 

That makes sense, I have experienced it both ways myself. It's the difference in Descartes's clara et distincta, or maybe like Wittgenstein's sachverhalt and tatsache - a fact that stands on its own and a compound fact. Usually people perceive emotion as clear, that is as a singularity which can be observed as an aggregate of its constituent parts. But transitioning into the distinct mode of thinking is like being completely detached from material and observing things as they exist in the logical space, following their chains of causality and reading the properties of the set which the thing represents. This can sometimes feel like an emotional experience in itself, because frankly, it's almost like being on drugs.

 

Yeah they sometimes look high when they talk about it.

 

Yeah, I have experienced that too, though I'm pretty sure the experience I had wasn't in Latin.

PS. While sachverhalt is an atomic fact, I think tatsache isn't exactly meant to denote a compound, but rather the logical form of the compound (when the proposition picturing it is true). Wittgenstein's reasoning is a little convoluted on that front, though.

 

I'm just realising most people will be like "WTF is he talking about is he high"

 

You mean like the difference between the proposition and the propositional sign?

"3.13 To the proposition belongs everything which belongs to the projection, but not what is projected. Therefore the possibility of what is projected but not this itself."

Reading Tractatus is like a really fun torture.

 

Yes. I think the best way to distinguish proposition from propositional sign is to think of it as the distinction between formal and natural language. To illustrate:

(∃x)Hx (formal language)

"There are humans" (natural language)

(∃x)Hx is the proposition, while "There are humans" is the propositional sign. (∃x)Hx contains the possibility of what is projected ("There are humans") but not this itself. E.g., H is only the possibility of signifying "human". It could signify something else. Only in the actual proposition "There are humans" is the signifying (what is projected) effective.

So in (∃x)Hx you have the form of the sense of the proposition, but not the content, which requires projection onto the world via the sign (in this case, words: "there", "are", "humans").

 

What better way to honour INTPs than to communicate like the stereotype of an INTP.

 

*Speaks ebonics to @Ren*

 

This thread is fake news

 

Ew intps.