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Damn it. First of all.
tl;dr version :
Personal version:
now I have a problem related to that. Well, that starts it off....... I'm really uncomfortable divulging this but I need your help. I...I guess this is the kind of uncomfortable decisions I have to learn and.... ugh.
Let's start by describing the situation......
The easiest way is to pick a side (most likely the ENTJ side, to be honest); but I really don't want to. But in this case, is indecision the worse decision?
...Wow, that's long.![Frown :( :(](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png)
tl;dr version :
What do you think about staying 'neutral' in a troubled friendship? Can it be done without making a bias? How do you do that?
Personal version:
now I have a problem related to that. Well, that starts it off....... I'm really uncomfortable divulging this but I need your help. I...I guess this is the kind of uncomfortable decisions I have to learn and.... ugh.
Let's start by describing the situation......
- I'm in a closely knit group of 4; a 3w2 ENTJ as the unofficial group, a 5w6 INTJ as the second hand, then there's a...enneagram unknown but most likely 9w1, ISFP, and me; a 6w5 INFX, as the....littlest one, in many ways.
- Now, the ENTJ was...well, extremely pissed off with the ISFP. It's not the first, and I'm afraid this is the worst. The ISFP... She's "digging the hole I'm not interested to get her out of it".
- And indeed; she's problematic.... well, she has problems. I won't deny it. Bullying family, being oppressed, and mother that arranged her to marry with someone she don't even like (culturally possible in my place, but yeah). And romantic problems. BUT problem is she didn't do anything to get out of it. No. NOOOO. NADA. All three of us had told, advised, yelled at her...but no. What she did instead was getting into.... escapism (via romantic roleplay, which...frankly kinda got into cybering.) and then self destructing (a-la Fi 'yes this is all my fault ;;;;A;;;;'), and then putting herself back, rinse and repeat.
- I think the INTJ already distanced herself from the ISFP, in fact she'd also advised the ENTJ to distance from the ISFP, for good reasons. Me, on the other hand; still think that regardless of whether she could / couldn't be saved, she should be accompanied; I mean, that's her job to save herself, but I'd say it's our job to accompany her if she's down. (even though I'm finding myself facepalming at her)
Now I'm confused. I....really like to stay neutral this time; but there's a feeling that staying neutral >> not deciding, and that would offend her needlessly. And then I completely understand that in my own case, staying out of trouble here is only like running away from the responsibility of a friend. Running away out of fear, just to not seeing the car crash. But I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Should I dirty my hands?Telling the ISFP this would be a no-no, but should I tell her yet again to get her life back on track?Condensed chatlog said:Her:which fucked up norm from where that friends can get away with neutrality
Me : if it won't make things worse...well, there's the age gap. I mean, if A + C and B + C could go on peacefully, seeing from B's side, it seems understandable
Her : LOL. it's not peaceful, like going out with someone who cheats on you.
Me : A & B may be right; kinda betrayed in guise of 'neutrality', I suppose. perfectly understandable And for C.... this sounds like inability to make decision. I'm sorry, I kinda empathized. Especially if two sides are formerly close to each other.
Her : But indecision is a decision. It can go this way; "I think your idea is despicable. I won't come, but I won't tell B either." /ENTJ. That's neutral. And the first part is optional. If B's a friend, then I won't come and I will probably say it.
Me : But in this case, doesn't that seem to make C look like siding towards B? By not coming. I'm not talking in the sense of neutral being the stalwart stone pillar, tho; more like...the wind-blown raft.
Her : ...ew
Her : still, that's... ew
Her : it's not going to be pretty either way. So, yeah; just follow what your principles had believed; do it and face whatever the consequences.
The easiest way is to pick a side (most likely the ENTJ side, to be honest); but I really don't want to. But in this case, is indecision the worse decision?
...Wow, that's long.
![Frown :( :(](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png)