I wonder if the same people you talk about in the early fifties are doing this. I wonder if the death camps were manufactured by the secret men of America so they could demonize Hitler and attack Germany? just kidding.
Some people behind the scenes have been around for many decades for example Kissinger and David Rockeffeller
The camps in Germany weren't engineered by the CIA but Hitler was funded by the international bankers until he went off script. They saw him as a bulwark against Communism that was rising in Europe so they funded his fascism because they saw him as someone they could do business with.
I have given many examples of the financial links between US business interests and Hitler elsewhere on the forum. For example there have been two US presidents from the Bush family and their father/grandfather was Prescott Bush who was a wall street banker. He worked with the Rockeffelers, was a member of Yale's skull and bones secret society and he worked for Union Banking Corporation which held assets for the German industrialist Thyssen family.
Seriously, though, @
muir : who would want to control the world? Watching and manufacturing atrocities has nothing to do with, what I see as, control of the world. That would leave the world out of control..
I have explained Hegel's principle of thesis, antithesis and synthesis a number of times on this forum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis,_antithesis,_synthesis
This principle is well known by the power elite and it works like this:
You create a crisis, the people get outraged and demand a solution and then you offer the solution (the synthesis) that you already had prepared.
For example lets say you are a member of a powerful banking dynasty and you are internarried with other powerful banking dynasties and you share business interests with them, you went to school then university with them, you socialise in the same places, you are in the same clubs (secret or otherwise) and you basically both want the same political/economic situation because you both know that it would protect your shared interests
So you want to ensure you have power in order to protect your interests against the workers who have begun to form into unions to protect their interests. The best way to weild power is to spend some of the vast money your family made when america was booming for example in the oil industry (like Rockeffeller) or in steel for the railways (carnegie) or bootlegging (kennedy) or whatever, on buying up media outlets so that you can control the flow of information to the american public. So you buy up newspapers (like the hearsts) and you buy up publishing houses and you build educational establishments like the Rockeffeller university or the London school of economics so that you can basically control the output of these institutions.
Modern news comes from very few centralised sources and these are all owned by corporations. But what are corporations? Corporations are an entitiy that was created to act as a shield between a business person and the risk of the business they were in. If things go wrong the business takes the hit not the businessman/woman. So all these corporations that own all the media are simply the front behind which are powerful men and women. The powerful men and women are often members of well established families whose wealth is decades or centuries old (in the case of the rothschilds)
So lets look at an example of how these powerful intermarried families could use hegels principle. If they wanted to get further control of the US economy they could create a crisis. For example they could spread rumours on wallstreet and mainstreet that would cause a run on the banks. They could then lobby the politicians saying that there is economic instability and what the US really needs to create stability is a central bank.
A paper could be drawn up in secret (for example the federal reserve act, drawn up by a cabal of bankers in ecret on Jekyll island) and this paper could be put before congress when everyone had left for ressess so that only a few people were i the room and the paper could be given legal authorisation.....and that's how your central bank came into being.
What is a 'central bank'? A central bank is a PRIVATELY owned bank owned by various banks such as Chase Manhatten which in turn is simply a corporate front for the rockeffeller family. A government then asks the central bank for money by issuing a government bond. The central bank then prints money out of thin air (fiat money is not pegged to anything like gold...it has no intrinsic value) which it gives to the government WITH INTEREST.
So for every dollar that comes into circulation debt is created, which is why your government is in so much debt
Think about that for a second. Private bankers create the money out of nothing and then we pay them interest for it!
Abraham lincoln tried to avoid doing this so he created his own currency the 'greenback' which was issued by the government NOT by the central bankers so they had him murdered. President Andrew Jackson also fought the bankers and there was an assassination attempt on his life that failed and President kennedy tried to issue silver as a way of undermining the 'federal' reserve so he too was murdered.
Your whole history as a nation has been about a struggle for control betwen the people and the bankers. You broke off from Britain because britain was dominated by central bankers who wanted to tax you to pay for their many wars. Wars are great for bankers because there is nothing that generates more debt than wars and debt is how bankers make money. The privately owned central banks issue and control the nations money supply.
So you asked 'who would want to control the world'. Well lets look at some quotes by Meyer Amschel Rothschild:
"Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws".
Here's what he wrote in a letter to an agent:
"The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
What he's talking about is a central banking system where all the countries of the world are controlled by central banks (because if you control money supply then you control the country) and these central banks in turn are controlled by a central bank (the Bank on International Settlements based in Switzerland.....and what are swiss banks notorious for? For holding nazi gold)
Wallstreet has taken over your government and that is why the government and other governments are forcing 'austerity' measures on the public, because they are protecting the holders of the now worthless bank bonds by stealing money from the public ('banking bailouts'). What they should have done is write off the debts to the ability to pay....which basically means that the trillionaires and billionaires would have to lose some money....but the governments are saying 'no we are not going to let billionaires lose money, we are going to squeeze money from the public instead and give it to the billionaires'
And what will the billionaires do with the money? They will buy stuff. They will buy up all the land, the water, the forests, the schools, hospitals, bridges, beeches (in the case of greece!) and anything else they can get their hands on whcih is helped by the corrupt governments selling off these assets cheaply in 'firesales'
What we are moving towards [MENTION=2719]justme[/MENTION] is a world where a few very powerful families own EVERYTHING. This is a move back towards fuedalism where barons ruled over the peasants from fortresses by violence and fear. Noticed all the increasing surveillance, the arming of the police, the changes in law? That's the fuedal state coming into being.
Any countries who are not currently being controlled by the central banks (the neoliberal club) are basically being attacked by the armies of the west who don't realise that they are doing the work of the bankers. The bankers want to topple politicians who do not agree with them and put their own puppet governments in like they did to iran in the 1950's (and americans wonder why many muslims see the USA as the devil!!!! WAKE UP!!!)
These governments will then force a state of fuedalism on the people. Look at Mubarak...he was an agent of the US. While under his control Egypt was a client state of the US. What did that robber baron do while he was in power? He gathered together a personal fortune of $40-70 billion while many of his people were starving. If anyone opposed him he had them tortured and/or murdered.
The USA is well known as a torturer or opponents. It advocates the use of waterboarding and has been exposed a flying prisoners on 'rendition' flights to countries where worse torture is legal so that they can be tortured. Pictures came out of the atrocities in Abu Graib prison and Guantanomo bay is on cuba so that it does not fall under the jurisdiction of US courts because if it did people would be entitlted to a trial instead of being held indefinately with no evidence against them.
The bankers tried to pass a law recently called the 'National Defence Authorisation Act' (NDAA) which would allow the US military to lock up, indefinately and torture US citizens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! Obama who is an agent of wallstreet signed this act!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People can only spend so many billions of whatever, anyway. I also don't think you give people, in general, very much credit(not$$). We aren't as stupid as you think. .
I haven't called anyone 'stupid'
What i am saying is that the media is pulling the wool over peoples eyes and that people need to wake up to what is happening
The greedy might lean a bit toward being stupid if someone is being stupid. Don't like that word, anyway. There's a lot of really intelligent folk out there. There are, however, a lot of folk that don't give a whip about anyone but themselves. There are sociopaths and murderers; poets and authors. There are news reporters and there are those that watch the news.
The scary part for those that do not understand is there are those that can see what is coming and try to fix it before the worst happens. There are protectors, and there are those selling arms to feed their economy to keep from showing its weaknesses. Survival at all costs? Not on my watch. I want what I feel is best for everyone. There are others out there just like me, too. The world is not filled with idiots and run by greedy mongers.
The US is the worlds biggest arms manufacturer....the bankers make money from weapons and they make money from the war loans they give to governments fighting wars
LISTEN to what one of your past presidents said about the growth of a 'military industrial complex' in the clip below. The military industrial complex is basically the network of banking/corporate families that i am talking about. Different people call them different things: the 'power elite', the 'military industrial complex', the 'illuminati', the 'international bankers' etc....they are all the same thing!
[video=youtube;8y06NSBBRtY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY[/video]
They exercise power through forums such as the Bilderburg Club and the Council on Foreign relations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Club
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_foreign_relations
