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Carbon Tax

Could you Support a Carbon Tax

  • I could

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • No way

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • I think we can't stop global warming

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • I think global warming is not real

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
Did you notice how they used to call it 'global warming' but as temperatures dropped they had to rebrand it 'climate change'

But the climate changes ALL THE TIME so by calling it 'climate change' they can always demonstrate various changes

I don't think anyone disputes that pollution is bad for the environment and that toxifying our soils, water and air is a bad thing. Also more and more people are now seeing nuclear power as a dangerous thing due to Fukishima

Despite this the british government is getting the chinese government to build a new generation of nuclear powers stations in britain thereby giving a foreign government known for its centralised control over its people inside information on our energy grid

The world goes through natural cycles of climate change for example 'ice ages'. Our planet is affected by forces from outside the planet for example solar activity such as solar flares which also have their cycles

I think there are powerful people who want to impose carbon taxes as a way of controlling, economically, business around the globe

There are generally speaking two schools of thought. There are the free marketeers who want the government to stay out of affairs and then there are those that believe in central control and government interference at various levels. This is a simplification but these are definately two strong currents in our world

The central controllers want to impose carbon taxes but they are also the same people who want to control every other aspect of our lives through planned, centralised economies. They are behind the 'nanny state' idea where the state treats everyone like children that must be told what to do all the time. Such a world also carries with it a LOT OF PAPERWORK and beaurocracy

So a coordinated effort to solve the worlds problems isn't necessarily a bad thing....but what if the problem isn't as they claim it is? Or what if they are creating the problem in the first place?

For example if you look into the skies these days you can see long thin clouds appearing in the wake of aeroplanes. These are called 'chemtrails' and they are part of a covert 'genoengineering' project being carried out by the central planners (if the trails disperse behind the plane they are legitmiate 'contrails'...the chemtrails linger and then drop slowly spreadin gout as they go)

This chemtrailing affects our climate. It creates freak weather patterns for example tornados and flooding and it can also affect the ice pack at the poles.

So the question is: ''should we trust people who want to tax us due to their claims about the climate when they themselves are manipulating the climate?''

I would answer ''no'' to that
 
The notion that any action to change society that is government lead must me part of a plot to subjugate humanity is a bit paralyzing for the average active citizen.
 
The notion that any action to change society that is government lead must me part of a plot to subjugate humanity is a bit paralyzing for the average active citizen.

Thats why they need to become informed enough about the wider issues to be able to determine what policies have positive implications for the general public and which are going to be detrimental for them

For example the general public should have realised that the NDAA compromises their rights and they should have resisted it tooth and nail
 
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/future-earth-re-branding-agenda-21-for-environmental-control_062014

“Future Earth”: Re-branding Agenda 21 for Environmental Control

Climate change was created by the Club of Rome who stated that “in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and thus the real enemy, then, is humanity itself believed humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or one invented for the purpose.”
Eco-fascists have begun a 10 year initiative that strengthens partnerships between governments, alarmist scientists and investors to develop “opportunities of global environmental change and support transformation towards global sustainability in the coming decades.” This new scheme is called Future Earth.
While phrases like Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development are becoming more “mainstream” the environmentalists who believe in eco-technology and controlling the world’s population for the sake of protecting Gaia, the new buzz words “future earth” seem harmless enough – yet they simply hide behind the unassuming façade to coerce people into supporting the global domination plans of the UN.
Future Earth endeavors to design a global plan to oversee:
• Research and development of sustainable methods that control food, water, energy and healthcare
• Utilizing technology, sciences and economics
• Pressure governments and law makers to support their efforts
• Manifesting sustainable agendas with academics, corporations, appropriated funds and product production
• Controlling under-developed nations by forcing sustainable technologies

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In March of this year, the Planet Under Pressure conference brought together the goals of the UN Conference on Sustainable Development (Rio+20) and an estimated 3,018 in attendance with another 3,500 watching on live webstreaming.
Some of the supporters of the conference were:
• NASA
• The Center for Carbon Measurement
• Asia-Pacific Network for Global Change Research
• European Cooperation in Science and Technology
• CSIRO
• The European Space Agency
• Global Water System Project
• The Met Office
• Oxford University
• United Nations Environment Programme
• The Royal Society
• NSF
• USAID
The document “State of the Planet Declaration” explains how pollution, resource demand and potentially catastrophic consequences are changing our “global civilization”. In order to maintain our planet for future generations, we must accept the consensus of a “new epoch, the Anthropocene.”
This new mode of thought focuses on Earth as a conscious being that supports all living beings through interconnected and interdependent systems. Through this balance, sustainability facilitates protection of the future. One method is to ensure global governance over the environment to mitigate climate change and loss of biodiversity.
Future Earth also collaborates with the Alliance for Global Sustainability, (AGS) which partners with various universities to provide research institutions for the progressive forward path toward sustainability.
The AGS “brings together hundreds of university scientists, engineers, and social scientists to address the complex issues that lie at the intersection of environmental, economic, and social goals.”
Their purpose is to:
• Develop action plans
• Influence decision-making in public and private corporations
• Use propaganda to steer younger generations toward sustainability
• Partner with “agents of change” of corporations, government and society
• Use the international community to secure water, food and energy
• Mandate the “rise of mega-cities”
• Commit world leaders and presidents to changing a global paradigm toward sustainability
Future Earth is a vision concocted by eco-fascists wherein their version of global environmentalism is meant to become all-encompassing as they endeavor to “define pathways towards sustainability and respond effectively to the risks and opportunities”.
Once they are successful in convincing the world that “human activities have already transformed the Earth system”, they will use pseudo-scientific research that supports their agenda and force the nations of the world to make the appropriate transformations toward global sustainability.

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