Advice on building a website?

[Blind Bandit]

I use a free host: www.byethost.com

I build my websites from scratch, so it has everything I need.

If you want a free domain-type name, I'd suggest uni.cc

My (sub)domain is "www.agapooka.uni.cc"

Don't bother checking how my site looks. I disabled it, because I'm slowly working on it. XD

As for free hosting, nobody can know you are using a free host if there are no ads and if the server is up and... if they don't do something to get a 404 error.

I'd recommend it only to get you on your feet and as a testing ground. You should use a reliable, dedicated hosting service with a company like the one BB described if your audience is serious and it is imperative that you make a good impression every time


Cheers,

Agapooka

Just to be clear whatever host you use its simply to find out who they are and were they are.

For example here is info infjs.com

Trace out from me to INFjs.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Shaun>tracert infjs.com

Tracing route to infjs.com [97.107.136.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 17 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms ge-5-1-ur02.spokane.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.8
7.160.81]
4 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms te-0-10-0-5-ar01.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [
68.86.177.157]
5 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms ae-1-0-ar03.burien.wa.seattle.comcast.net [68.85
.240.94]
6 36 ms 37 ms 37 ms pos-0-1-0-0-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net [
68.86.93.109]
7 28 ms 29 ms 27 ms pos-1-5-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.87.245]
8 44 ms 165 ms 28 ms 208.178.58.85
9 454 ms 310 ms 310 ms xe-7-0-0.cr1.nyc2.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.205]
10 118 ms 116 ms 145 ms ae1-70g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.173]
11 118 ms 125 ms 117 ms ae1-70g.ar2.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.94.118]
12 142 ms 141 ms 141 ms as8001.xe-3-0-6.ar2.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95
.130]
13 141 ms 142 ms 141 ms 0.e1-2.tbr1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.10.118]
14 141 ms 141 ms 144 ms vlan801.esd1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.10.10]
15 141 ms 146 ms 140 ms 207.99.53.42
16 142 ms 141 ms 141 ms li97-39.members.linode.com [97.107.136.39]

Trace complete.

C:\Users

As we can see my ISP is Comcast. And the site is hosted with Linode. And that Linode has connectivity to Nlayer to get to Comcast.


And you can also use the following site to get info about a host and the website.

http://www.domaintools.com/


I can find out their host and see other websites hosted on the same IP address and so on.


For example here is the info our host (Linnode) As you can see you can find someones hosting info pretty easy.

IP Information for 97.107.136.39

IP Location:

United States Cedar Knolls Linode ASN: AS8001 Resolve Host: li97-39.members.linode.com IP Address: 97.107.136.39 Reverse IP: 3 websites use this address. (examples: infjs-static.com infjs.com mindview.co.uk)
​

NetRange: 97.107.128.0 - 97.107.143.255
CIDR: 97.107.128.0/20
OriginAS:
NetName: LINODE-US
NetHandle: NET-97-107-128-0-1
Parent: NET-97-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
Comment: This block is used for static customer allocations.
RegDate: 2008-12-12
Updated: 2010-07-27
Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-97-107-128-0-1

OrgName: Linode
OrgId: LINOD
Address: 329 E. Jimmie Leeds Road
Address: Suite A
City: Galloway
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 08205
Country: US
RegDate: 2008-04-24
Updated: 2010-08-31
Comment: http://www.linode.com
Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/LINOD

OrgAbuseHandle: LAS12-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Linode Abuse Support
OrgAbusePhone: +1-609-593-7103
OrgAbuseEmail:
OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LAS12-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: LNO21-ARIN
OrgTechName: Linode Network Operations
OrgTechPhone: +1-609-593-7103
OrgTechEmail:
OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LNO21-ARIN

OrgNOCHandle: LNO21-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Linode Network Operations
OrgNOCPhone: +1-609-593-7103
OrgNOCEmail:
OrgNOCRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LNO21-ARIN

RNOCHandle: LNO21-ARIN
RNOCName: Linode Network Operations
RNOCPhone: +1-609-593-7103
RNOCEmail:
RNOCRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LNO21-ARIN

RAbuseHandle: LAS12-ARIN
RAbuseName: Linode Abuse Support
RAbusePhone: +1-609-593-7103
RAbuseEmail:
RAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LAS12-ARIN

RTechHandle: LNO21-ARIN
RTechName: Linode Network Operations
RTechPhone: +1-609-593-7103
RTechEmail:
RTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LNO21-ARIN


​

Or if your interested some info about our site. again using http://www.domaintools.com/

Website Title:

INFJs.com

Title Relevancy
100%

Meta Description:
This is a MBTI personality forum for the INFJ temperament.

Description Relevancy:
90% relevant.

Meta Keywords:
official, myers briggs test, humanmetrics, mbti, infjs, infj, forum, mbti, idealist, author, counsellor, nf, personality

Keyword Relevancy:
53% relevant

Compete Rank:

#294,574 with 5,025 Unique visitors per month

Quantcast Rank:
#150,406



AboutUs:
Wiki article on Infjs.com


SEO Score:
70%

Terms:
675 (Unique: 373, Linked: 322)

Images:
56 (Alt tags missing: 55)

Links:
207 (Internal: 190, Outbound: 4)

iFrames:
2 ( Parts of page not indexable by most search engines. )

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What I'm trying to point out is though no one may care. Its very easy to get info about who you host with and about site. Not trying to worry anyone but when you host your not going to hide who your hosting with.

 

[Orion]

Okay scrap the bluehost thing. I've loads of things going on but I still want to research web design, which means my Je wants to finalize things! But i rush into decisions. Restarting...

I'm confused a bit, a lot of hosts say they include a domain in their package. Is this good or not?

As suggested, I want to get a separate domain, then get a UK host. But almost all hosts give me a domain with the package. Can I ignore this or does that mean I have to go with their domain?

 

[InvisibleJim]

You should be able to register the domain you have with the host you choose: I recommend you send them a quick email confirming this is possible and the steps to do so.

I have no idea who offers decent webhosting in the UK unfortunately.

 

[donaldmull]

Lunarpages is not a bad at all either

 

[Kgal]

Gah! [throws hand up in the air in frustration]

I'm so confused!

I have been asked to design a website for our meditation group sangha. I was looking for free hosting and a place to purchase a domain name. I thought if I did this little website then it would be easier to move on to designing my own. Boy was I in for a shock.

I appreciate what you guys have posted.
But honestly - I wish I had the funds to just hire you.

subscribes....

 

[turquoise]

Wordpress and such stuff might be faster and easier, but if you want to build a portfolio I really recommend learning Javascript, PHP and MySQL. With a little databasing and some programming you can put together really awesome, interactive websites and web applications a lot easier than you might expect. I regret wasting so much time doing basic HTML and C++ when the PHP/MySQL combo was what I really wanted. Anyway, good luck.

 

[InvisibleJim]

Gah! [throws hand up in the air in frustration]

I'm so confused!

I have been asked to design a website for our meditation group sangha. I was looking for free hosting and a place to purchase a domain name. I thought if I did this little website then it would be easier to move on to designing my own. Boy was I in for a shock.

I appreciate what you guys have posted.
But honestly - I wish I had the funds to just hire you.

subscribes....

You should never run a website for a business off a freebie site. It's too unreliable and you might end up with 'funny' and potentially 'offensive' adverts appearing which is very bad.

Try godaddy or something designed explicitly for business. It isn't too rigorous to even just put up a webpage with logo and some info, obviously, you need much more skill if you need to manage user accounts or such ilk.

However, if it is just a webspace to doodle on and store documents have you considered googledocs?

 

[Kgal]

You should never run a website for a business off a freebie site. It's too unreliable and you might end up with 'funny' and potentially 'offensive' adverts appearing which is very bad.

Try godaddy or something designed explicitly for business. It isn't too rigorous to even just put up a webpage with logo and some info, obviously, you need much more skill if you need to manage user accounts or such ilk.

However, if it is just a webspace to doodle on and store documents have you considered googledocs?

I appreciate your advice InvisibleJim. That's a good point about the content of forced ads.

Actually, I have found my way over to Google and am in the process of experimenting with designing a page.
Wish me luck!