What's Your Enneagram Type?

I sometimes wonder if I could be a 1, but I keep being thrown off by the fact that I'm not particularly J-ish, and 1 tends to correlate with J in its traditional portrayal. I have a major penchant towards reason and idealism, though, and can at times, when ruffled, be explosive about both.
I can't help note, though, that at the deep down core I'm simply not that serious or "particular" (except to indulge the game of understanding, in which case I can endlessly nitpick), and am more likely to enjoy being airy and bouncing around considering a thousand ways of interpreting a situation for fun than pushing any given agenda. The flip side is that there are certain times I grow very confident there's not a way to wiggle out of a certain pov, because wiggling is like my specialty, and I can become insistent on it.
On balance I tend to think any occasional 1-ishness is more a line of disintegration and/or a fix than a core. But who knowz.
I also still consider 6, but I'm leaning away.

I think the core of 2 is best understood by examining the placement within the heart triad -- the basic idea of 7 and 2, as the types adjacent to the gut triad but falling away from it, is to hold off the feelings of insufficiency which come with acknowledging the head/heart triads' core concerns (the core principle of the gut triad stems from 9's numbing strategy---either with 8's repressing vulnerability, or 1's repressing of the possibility of imperfection, either internally or externally -- as if to hold insufficiency at bay).
Hence why both 2 and 7 wind up positive triad types.
Unlike 3 which races to build up one's value through externally identifiable markers of it (e.g. accomplishment), 2 tends to try to repress there even being a question of insufficiency of value of self (not unlike enneagram 1), whether by pleasing the right people, or simply trying to be one's vision of good, dutiful, etc, and there can be resentment that builds if this goes unappreciated. A frequent strategy that leads to this kind of resentment is simply giving too much of oneself -- because of how 2 works, it's not like there's a point where one can sit back, look at a trophy, and say look I've done well. Hence, this resentment is quite different from the 3's difficulty, which is more a fear of failure.

All this is related to 2 being a superego type.

Rambling my thoughts, because I think currently/have not changed this for at least a while
think that my heart type is probably 2. It could be 4, but on balance, I am not sure I have the struggle between pursuing true authenticity and never really being valued for my true self.

Just found out I was an INFJ and then found this site. At sign up asked me for my Enneagram. So test done and here I am with (just now need to understand what it actual means...) :

Enneagram Test Results (4 Feb 2017)
Type 1 Orderliness |||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||| 50%
Type 3 Image Focus |||| 16%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||||| 64%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 62%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||| 44%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||| 38%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||| 28%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||| 58%

type score type behavior motivation
1 41 I must be orderly/planned to survive.
4 32 I must be unique/different to survive.
5 31 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
9 29 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
2 25 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
6 22 I must be secure and safe to survive.
7 19 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
8 14 I must be strong and in control to survive.
3 8 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.

Your main type is Type 1
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is average

Your main type is which ever behavior you utilize most and/or prefer. Your variant reflects your scoring profile on all nine types: so = social variant (compliant, friendly), sx = sexual variant (assertive, intense), sp = self preservation variant (withdrawn, security seeking). For info on the flaws of the Enneagram system click here.

I used to think I was a 4 for a long time, but the only type that really makes any sense to me is 9.

meh -- trying on 1w9.
I think the rough, vibey/heuristic sense it might fit me is I'm one of the most uncompromising reality-rejecting, dreaming, cerebral idealist types. I tend to have the nervous 6w7/7w6 energy, it just might be a fix>core.

First glance 4w5

More thorough test...2w1 2w3 and 2w2 in that order.

Hm, kind of shocking:

Your main type is Type 2
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is very low, i.e. very unhealthy

Type 1 Orderliness |||||||||||| 48%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||||| 76%
Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||| 44%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||||||| 72%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 64%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||| 46%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||| 56%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||| 40%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||| 34%

4w5 sexual variant (( sxspso ))

The test always puts me as something different. I'm wondering if anyone could help type me?

Nowadays, I'm at 6-9-2; 9 has 8 wing, 2 has (if any) 1 wing, 6 has 5 wing. sp sx for sure.

I decided against 1w9, as I realized my idealism isn't true idealism. True idealism is not about squashing the unnacceptable but pursues perfection even when things are pretty good. I'm just uncompromising on things like unbearable suffering.

Decided against 7 because I'm extremely happy with constraints, just no arbitrary constraints -- but a part of 7 anxiety tends to be that almost any constraint could be argued arbitrary. That's not part of my problem.

I am extremely against my needs not being fulfilled, but that's hardly gluttonous -- gluttony involves an anxiety as to what one's needs really are, and a tendency to taste more and more just to ensure one wouldn't miss out.
If anything, this points to a very strong sp.

I'm idealistic in that I kinda refuse to deal with unreasonable situations, but really that's just because to me, once you allow unreason into the mix, there's no standard by which to really do anything anymore.
But this sort of idealism is to me the most basic sort, the sort you can't really consistently deny, even if people try to get by without it daily....it creeps up and they can't.

I’m a type 3 or 6 they’re both high, and I’m super unhealthy and could benefit by working on fitness as well as psychological health.... so basically I’m all round just a mess....

4w5 or 5w4.

I hear that I come across way more as a 5w4, and I have typed 5 several times, but I don't know... I feel more like a 4w5 at heart. I probably need to understand the Enneagram better before I properly decide.

@Icedream Do you feel like 4w5 doesn't quite suit you? And if so, in what sense?

Ren said:

4w5 or 5w4.

I hear that I come across way more as a 5w4, and I have typed 5 several times, but I don't know... I feel more like a 4w5 at heart. I probably need to understand the Enneagram better before I properly decide.

@Icedream Do you feel like 4w5 doesn't quite suit you? And if so, in what sense?

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@Ren have you taken the Tritype test? That delves even deeper in the enneagram

Sandie33 said:

@Ren have you taken the Tritype test? That delves even deeper in the enneagram

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I did once, thanks to a link @Ginny sent me. I got 5-3-9. What about you?

The tough thing with tritypes is that I find it difficult to access any kind of reliable information about them. This (from a source I couldn't really verify) does sound like me at least on some level: "5-3-9: these Fives might strike others as rather pleasant and cooperative persons, but they are usually more ambitious and purposeful than they let on. They are goal-oriented individualists who dream of achieving an impressive and long-lasting success in their field – they secretly desire becoming famous and leaving their mark on the world. These Fives are also more dependent on outer validation than others – they care more about their image and the way others perceive and react to them, therefore they might seem a little more conventional and mainstream in their behavior."

But then you know, there's that whole other part of me, and all that.

Ren said:

What about you?

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Ren this was when I took mine here ...
469 , it spured me on to retake the enneagram test. I was 4w5, but find I'm more 2w1, 2w3. Which makes sense as I spend much of my time doing for or helping others in some way. Volunteering fills my need to socialize yet fills the need to help too. Win-win. Growing my own business gives me my alone time to refuel.
https://www.infjs.com/threads/enneagram-tritype-test.33232/#post-981794

Ren said:

4w5 or 5w4.

I hear that I come across way more as a 5w4, and I have typed 5 several times, but I don't know... I feel more like a 4w5 at heart. I probably need to understand the Enneagram better before I properly decide.

@Icedream Do you feel like 4w5 doesn't quite suit you? And if so, in what sense?

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I'm not sure. I feel like my enneagram could possibly be something different. Do you think I'm 4w5?

Here's another
http://davesenneagram.com/d7/daves-guide-enneagram/tritype

Lady Jolanda said:

What's your tri-type Ice? Weren't you 845?

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I can't even remember, and my tritype is what I'm most curious about

My tendency is to view tritype as basically the same idea that you have some of all of the 4 functions; auxiliary, etc. Viewing the other two as auxiliary types is very helpful. Indeed, there's some resemblance (feeling function/heart triad -- since the heart triad is about one's sense of worth/hence ties back somewhat to value judgment and the feeling function of Jungian typology.)

The closest analogues of inferior functions is the disintegration/integration lines, as the point is your type is set up framed almost like an opposite to those. So e.g. a 7 integrates to 5 means that it has an inner sense of impoverishment/where the 5 essentially lives life that way, the 7 tends to have reacted against it/defined itself against feeling impoverished, thus trying to maintain a sense of abundance. Hence gluttony. But the catch is the gluttony betrays a certain whimsicality, as if no specific thing is good enough/there's always an anxiety of being tied to a given thing.... which brings one back ultimately to the sense of impoverishment having never truly been addressed. So the integration should be understood as really addressing the issue vs running from it.

That's how I see dis/integration as different from tritype. Some claim you can just do away with tritype and just use dis/integration lines, but I've found this is the same fallacy as saying, by knowing you sit on the Ni-Se axis, that it's not interesting to figure out how your auxiliaries play out. All the centers head, heart, gut represent core ways we can react to the world, and natural ones at that, so our full response tends to be some admixture.

It IS possible to explain away things using tritype, because having all these types at your disposal can lead to just an unstructured listing of traits to describe yourself, but that's not a valid criticism of tritype, only of one possible way of putting it into operation.