Intelligence Question (IQ)

Wyote said:

Going back to your original sort of inquiry here @Fruiteloop
It seems to me you are on the search for a "greater whole" of measured intelligence
IQ is just our current best predictor of outcomes for success
And it only accounts for about half of what's going on, cognitively

Different tests will account for slightly different things, but here are some main things

Spoiler: Accounted For

• Fluid Reasoning: The ability to solve novel problems and recognize hidden patterns.
• Working Memory: The capacity to hold and manipulate information in your head for short periods.
• Processing Speed: How rapidly and accurately you can perform simple or complex cognitive tasks.
• Verbal & Visual-Spatial Skills: Comprehension, vocabulary, and manipulating shapes.

Spoiler: Not Accounted For

• Emotional Intelligence (EQ): The ability to perceive, control, and evaluate emotions.
• Practical Intelligence (Street Smarts): Common sense and the tacit knowledge required to navigate real-world, everyday situations.
• Creativity & Divergent Thinking: The capacity to generate out-of-the-box ideas, connect unrelated concepts, or produce original art/science.
• Rational Thinking Skills: The ability to critically weigh information, avoid intuitive cognitive biases, and make sound decisions.
• Motivation, Conscientiousness, & Grit: Character traits that significantly predict educational or career success, which do not correlate strongly with psychometric logic puzzles

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I think the difference is that the first four are well defined well the second five are not well defined.

It is not the the second five do not exist it is that they are so far away from what can be standardized that they are not standardized.

Emotions just are very fuzzy, navigating space is not something paper tests can examine at all.
Creativity requires knowing differences, Rationality requires a different kind of "complex" working memory.
Motivation is about organization in real life, a kind of complex naviational working memory.

Wyote said:

This is a great video explaining the truths and fictions regarding IQ

What you probably want to pursue knowledge of is g factor, this guy talks about that a bit

The g-factor is like the horsepower of your brain.

The Car Engine Analogy
Think of your mind like a car.

• Your brain has different features: a GPS (navigation skills), a stereo (language skills), and power windows (memory).
• The g-factor is the engine under the hood.
• A strong engine makes the GPS load faster, the stereo run smoothly, and the windows roll up quickly.

Why Scientists Use It
In 1904, a scientist noticed a pattern: people who were good at math also tended to be good at reading, logic, and music.
Because these skills seem connected, scientists concluded there must be one central mental energy fueling all of them. They named this "general intelligence," or the g-factor.

Spoiler: bonus

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I think the horsepower analogy is too much of a unilinear concept.

We could say that Intelligence as the g-factor is more like a 4D space of what people can do.

A longer 1D object is not going to explain what a shorter but larger 4D object can do.

On subtests of the IQ tests we have sections where parts are involved.

It is not that people scan all the parts faster to be smarter it is that the see all the parts together as one thing.

This way when they manipulate them in memory to fit together it is easier for them.

To get things where they need to be one has to know where they are first and how to combine them.

So in my view people that perceive more can get things where they need to be.

Executive function can be separated from perception but if they are equal together then we have the general ability or g-factor.

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So seeing what all goes together (Perception) and getting them where they need to be (executive function) is what I think intelligence is.

People vary in both of these.

But it is that people also if they have better vision are seeing more at once not just seeing it faster.

The reason people use the words faster and slower is because if you see the answer you get the answer fast.

But this is because you see everything at once. You don't move your eyes faster.

So intelligence is more about parallel processing.

The more you can get done at the same time.

This is not multitasking because colloquially that is based on speed not expanded perception, tho there are people called supertaskers.

Wyote said:

I wouldn't say "highest" necessarily but it is an important integral component
Being adept at metacognition will allow you to orchestrate parallel processes/coalescence of thoughts/ideas more judiciously/seamlessly

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The polar cortex is the anchor.

It keeps the main goal in tacked well allowing subgoals to exist.

I sat on the coach for an hour, fell asleep because it was hot.

More to do with not having anything else to do at the time.

But I kept focused on it.

I do not cry so I rather focused on trying to feel sad without crying.

Crying is a quicker release I think I got most of the work done without doing that.

The realizing I need to take breaks to feel sad sometimes is making it easier to not feel as sad as before.

Only that it is not about just feeling sad, I had to look at body awareness.

This gave me more energy to work with latter.

So was not as drained as before just by looking at the body and the sadness at the same time.

When focus is lost I just think I cannot do anything because its draining, but if awareness expands it helps to see other areas to spread around what would otherwise be overwhelming.

For me keeping the energy going is what lets my use my full potential. Gaps exist when I realize I used to much energy.

So it's like a hole in me. I try to avoid it but really it needs a bandaid or something.

As long as I try it gets less and less.

Often I got sad as a child because I got the wrong answer on tests sometimes. I needed to think fast. I am trying to learn to slow down.

We all have a limited amount of attention.

Even if we can expand attention by practice we do get hungry and thirsty and need sleep.

Walking to the store cleared my mind.

But if I start to slouch in my chair I will lose focus again.

Like falling asleep reading a book.

I agree that as long as I keep trying to pay attention I get better at it.

It is an energy balance.

The other day I did a puzzle.

It was a cube with 6 pieces.

I did it in less than 2 minutes and the social worker said it took her 10 minute before she had to look at the video to do it.

I am really good at assembling things external to myself because I can see where everything fits.

But if I have to do it in my head with no external cues I lack that ability entirely. I lack the ability to come up with anything in my mind.

From this I infer that some people have more control over what they can create in their mind than I do.

Some people have more control to imagine what could exist and then make it.

Mental control then is what I lack.

It is why I cannot sit still and do nothing.

People with mental control sit still because they are not really doing nothing, they are creating stuff in there head.

This then is what would be termed immediate vs self feedback.

I can do immediate feedback but not self feedback.

It is why I guess that I consider this issue important.

Thinking as in self feedback would allow me to do stuff I cannot right now.

Such as design technology without burning up all my brain cells in frustration.

I believe some people can just do it.

Either because they are thinkers or can see well what to do.

Me I can write down what I think is going on because I have verbal ideas all the time.

They just cannot be translated into what I want to make.

Mental control allows people to make stuff without immediate feedback, piece by piece in the mind.

That would be a neat thing to do otherwise I can only do what is in front of me and finding stuff to do is hard work mentally.

Self Monitoring
Updating Memory
Task Switching
Persistence

Observation
Valuation

Exploration vs Exploitation

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People can learn by self reflection.

This requires making considerations.

These can be immediate or internal

Thinking internally one can have many considerations.

There is a space of many possibilities.

Different directions.

And different decisions.

We can hold on to many scenarios if we think internally long enough.

I find I have smaller internal reflections.

But I can think ahead good enough to get by day to day.

It is about what is needed to accomplish some task.

Where these build up to form a majore super task.

Planning is something I need to practice more.