Wasn't really talking about eugenics, not in a radical way at least, so not sure why you bring this up?
I'm not sure if they lost precisely because they practiced eugenics. Did they?
I'll take your word that they had, but there were fewer of them than there is now.
Oh that's true! Yeah I think that's the main disagreement. It'd force people to face facts and perhaps become more responsible. or more stressed.
Oof, a few thousand of years of stability, that's a goal.
Yeah. And you're right. That sounds difficult. Your dad lived a healthy life then tho, cause by the way you describe he seemed to have been very functional to almost very end. And thank you for sharing this
That was exactly what my dad said when I brought this up to ask him. That's true. What...
true, but comparing very preterm babies to fullterm, 30% of them are behind in school, compared to 5% fullterm and 1,8% are gifted, compared to 9% fullterm. It's only academic performance, so it's difficult to judge, but it's a bit worrying.
Thank you for your answer. I'm not speaking about people who acquire the disability in their lifetime, we should always try our best to save and rehabilitate them. Goes to show that even healthy babies can acquire disabilities in their lifetime. The cases I am worried about is when we save very...
I see. So you'd prioritize saving the lives over bettering the quality of life for others? Or am I misunderstanding?
I'd say we would arrive at a proper place of usage if people are fulfilled and content about their lives. Then we can expand to saving more lives and taking care of the weak.
And...
Okay, makes sense.
And exactly! Although, how are we finding middle ground if medicine is always pushing towards saving more people? What's pushing the other direction?
Before modern medicine, nature would eliminate them and we'd have no problem with that? It's that we decided to save them. I was wondering if that's a correct way, cause sometimes their life isn't fulfilling to them or if it is fulfilling, it demands a lot of constant care from people around them.
I agree, they should be integrated. But with the modern medicine, we sort of create more disabled people than there'd normally be and more than we can manage or create a good environment for.