Hey dragu, sure thing! Sorry about late response. Do you want to create a separate thread or discuss this in the Anteroom? I'd love to discuss that.
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Ren
dragulagu
It's OK, it's a sort of revelation I discovered while using the oculus quest, where you can follow someone in whatever part of the wold in their recording in the world. (this one being Japan, Tokyo). When following this person within their 360 recording, it really gives a bizarre yet elevating view when you can freeze time and see a full round perspective around you.
Ren
Sounds really cool!
dragulagu
We can have a discussion on it, if you want. It's the perspective that we're never able to confirm that our personal reality is the true reality, as ours is never fully perceived, given the oculus quest as an example.
dragulagu
When you follow the "guide" in the tour video in Tokyo you only see as much as you are seeing with your eyes. However, with the 360 view of the camera, you are actually missing a lot of details happening (which you would never perceive or acknowledge to exist with your own eyes/senses).
Ren
Sure, but I don't exactly see what's so revolutionary about this? Direct realism is rejected by most philosophers using arguments of this sort.
Ren
Our perception of time is another obvious example. 'Lived time' has little to do with the physicist's concept of time
dragulagu
It's nothing revolutionary, but rather an actual physical example on the topic, most examples are offered through thought experiments. I recall we had a thread discussion on it last year.
Ren
I think a more interesting angle is how to identify where our subjective perception intersects with the objective world. I.e., although our perception is subjective, it is arguably made of the 'raw' materials of the external world (i.e. I see a table, which is not really a table physically speaking but nevertheless it is made of atoms etc.)
dragulagu
As far as I know direct realism is rejected but not refuted.
Ren
It's not even completely rejected, there are important philosophers who support it. Check this out: https://nwrickert.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/searle-on-direct-realism/