Misty
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I am unsure that @Misty referred to millions of people as a means to affirm the existence of God. She could have done so precisely within the context of that statement (folks not hedging their bets). Your brush seems to me to be mighty broad, declaring that folks are hedging their bets and thinking to know why they do (neglect to do the study).[1] Yes they are. The are products of human invention.
[2] Did you watch the video linked in post #121?
[3] Argumentum ad populum [logical fallacy]
[4] Belief in God and Satan have never been proven objectively to be worthwhile. On the contrary.
[5] I myself - after diligent study over many years - understand that we most likely do exist within a creation, which therefore implies a creator. There is 'something so much more' but neither the belief in religious ideas of gods, or devils are related to or responsible for, that being the case.
You state that you understand that we most likely do exist within a creation. I am just curious. Does this mean to you that we most likely live due to a Creator?
If so, this is considered a core attribute of "God" and therefore, the place of seeing things differently is not God's existence, rather God's attributes where your understanding is that those attributes do not include religious ideas of gods, whatever that means to you.
No doubt about it. You can YouTube plenty videos about the origins of Satan. You can find out why he went from a Blue skin, large nosed being to the reddish devil we know today.This is why I wrote "Satan appears to be a mythological invention of Christianity and belief in him was necessary for the survival of the Christian religion."
Yes they are. The are products of human invention.
What I question are the mythologies presented by religions and the claims made regarding that Mind such as how things were before the formation of this reality simulation [physical universe] re the beliefs of existence of angels and demons.
Yes - I understood it as such, but watching the vid you linked in post#121 was worthwhile as the narration and evidence re that was revealing.No doubt about it. You can YouTube plenty videos about the origins of Satan. You can find out why he went from a Blue skin, large nosed being to the reddish devil we know today.
Yes - the human animal as well [Angels] and make believe ones [Demons]The earliest religions we know about deify animals
Imagine coming down from a place of perfect joy into a world filled with violence and deceit, suffering all kinds of lies and scheming against you, inviting someone into your inner circle knowing he will betray you, willingly being condemned and traded for a murderer while saying nothing in your defense, getting tortured and marred beyond human recognition only to be led to a slow and excruciating execution while all your friend abandon you, getting sneered at and treated like a criminal by those who are themselves wicked criminals, shaking their heads at you and mocking you as you pray for their ultimate good with no malice, just so they can have access to the same place you came from. And in the wake of it all, you hear, "You are not worth my time. In fact, you are beneath me. I'd rather suffer forever than say you are greater than I."I believe that if the christian god is real, he isn't worthy of worship. I'd gladly go to hell.
Save your prayers for someone who cares. The God is the devil of the bible. that makes you a devil worshipper. Lucifer never betrayed me, but god and his servants certainly have. I want nothing to do with your lying vein god. keep your prayers to yourself.Imagine coming down from a place of perfect joy into a world filled with violence and deceit, suffering all kinds of lies and scheming against you, inviting someone into your inner circle knowing he will betray you, willingly being condemned and traded for a murderer while saying nothing in your defense, getting tortured and marred beyond human recognition only to be led to a slow and excruciating execution while all your friend abandon you, getting sneered at and treated like a criminal by those who are themselves wicked criminals, shaking their heads at you and mocking you as you pray for their ultimate good with no malice, just so they can have access to the same place you came from. And in the wake of it all, you hear, "You are not worth my time. In fact, you are beneath me. I'd rather suffer forever than say you are greater than I."
The whole tragedy of humanity is compressed in your few words. Truly, I pray for you.
Blessed are you, child of God. Blessed be your heart.Save your prayers for someone who cares. The God is the devil of the bible. that makes you a devil worshipper. Lucifer never betrayed me, but god and his servants certainly have. I want nothing to do with your lying vein god. keep your prayers to yourself.
I know this is an old post, but re: Lavey, geez, talk about an uber nerd…I actually don't know anything about Satanism so have started reading their website. So far, this seems reasonable to me:
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
by Anton Szandor LaVey
© 1967
I don't think Satanists actually worship Satan in the way Christians worship God. Maybe I am wrong about this.
- Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
- Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
- When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
- If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
- Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
- Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
- Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
- Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
- Do not harm little children.
- Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
- When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.