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Things that make me glad I live in a Christian Country.

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    I don't think Christianity has much to do with it. Followers of any religion have the capacity to be inhumane.

    I always read about tragedies and cruelty. I hate the burden it makes me feel and try to ignore it.
     
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    I think people who follow religious beliefs instead of using reason, evidence, and human compassion, are idiots.
     
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    Sorry, can't say I know what you are talking about.

    Although you gotta admit these religious idiots manage to get into leadership positions quite often where they have a lot of influence. It seems pretty horrendous the things they can say and do while using their religious beliefs to justify it.
     
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    On the contrary, I think it does. Even at medieval times when the church was a juggernaut such things did not happen. Christian morale clearly draws a line that "an eye for an eye" is an outdated concept and should be replaced with forgiveness and compassion. Christ himself stated this notion explicitly numerous times.

    Of course there were countless murder and torture of innocent people under the name of Christianity but at least it does not take pride for that and recognize it's mistakes.

    Does calling other people idiots because of their beliefs display your abundance of human compassion?
     
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    Lets just sweep the Spanish Inquisition under the rug eh? Nothing to see here... move along.
     
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    It isn't compassionate to enable idiocy.
     
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    [MENTION=2495]88chaz88[/MENTION];
    The Spanish inquisition was principally set up to drive belief and moral systems that advocate "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" out of the Spanish Kingdom.

    Spain is the only country that having been overun with Islam became fully Christian again. You could say that they were intollerant of intollerance.
     
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    That makes it all so much better then. Well done you crazy Spaniards for torturing thousands of innocent people and burning many others at the stake.

    Makes every Christian proud.
     
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    @88chaz88;

    No one was burned or tortured without having a choice to either go into exile or convert.

    It beats having Government appointed judges sentence you having your spinal chord surgically severed.

    Numbers: The generally accepted number of people burnt at the stake is a little over 4000 in the 400 odd years of the Spanish inquisition. That's about 10 per year sentenced to death. In 2009, 388 people were sentenced to death in Iran alone. In 2009 the United States sentenced 52 people to death.

    Aparently burning at the stake was used, because it gave the convicted the opportunity to choose either exile or to recant even as the flames were being kindled.
     
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    Almost no one has died in the name of Buddhism (outside of the limited support of the Japanese empire expansion efforts from the 1880s-1940s). Just sayin'.
     
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    Unless they were part of the People's Liberation Army. The Tibetan Chushi Gangdruk guerrilla movement rose up against the Atheistic Communist Chinese invaders of Tibet. They were trying to preserve their way of life and religion from invaders.

    I don't see how that is so different from what the Spanish did in the 1400's.



    I personally like living in a Christian country - not because of intollerance per se, but because its principles are generally intollerant of intollerance.

     
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    In 2009 the United Kingdom sentenced 0 people to death.

    Anyway, lets forget the Spanish Inquisition even though they tortured thousands of innocents. Instead we could move on to the crusades, the KKK, or even the Nazi's.

    Your choice.
     
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    Nobody has died in the name of Bahai. No exceptions.
     
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    Hey, how about we stop decrying intolerance by using more intolerance? You may not like Christianity but it does not give you free reign to be a dick.


    In regards to this story, I don't really care about this guys plight. You do something wrong then don't be surprised if it comes with negative consequences.
     
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    Did I ever think I had free reign to be a dick?

    Anyway I don't have any intolerance towards Christianity, nor any other religion. That doesn't mean I'm going to pretend that everything related to religion is okay just because it's Christian or Jewish or whatever.

    Edit: Hell complete abolition of religion is just as bad, i.e. Stalin.
     
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    It's still a debated issue, but many historians believe that the Islamic period of Spanish history (especially the earlier years) was perhaps the most religiously tolerant in the world, for the times.

    But Australia isn't a Christian country, it's a secular country whose legal and moral systems were originally founded on Christian ideals, and where the majority religion is Christianity. It's a subtle difference, but a significant one.

    The Nazi's committed their atrocities in the name of eugenics, not Christianity.
     
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    I wasn't really referring to you.
     
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    Hitler used every trick in the book. Just happened that eugenics was more popular at the time.
     
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