Things are getting serious in Syria

[tfg345i4u5lw]

Syriasly...

What do you guys think about the whole situation? Do you guys believe the hype in the media? Do you think it's propaganda? How much oil is over there?

To me, they appear to be using the same strategy they used in Libya. 1) Civil war 2) Make claims the current government is using immoral means to defend their regime 3) Use it as justification to invade 4) Put people in place who will play by our rules.

It was painful to watch Libya get torn to pieces. Hope I'm not going to witness the same shit all over again.

 

[ThomasJ79]

I am extremely skeptical here. I think the U.S. is aware that other countries will not approve of any intervention in Syria's civil war and this event may have the potential to lead to heightened international conflict. The truth is Syria is not an island nation, other countries are dependent on it for trade. The fact that international sanctions failed should be a warning of the intricate web of relations that exist. I do think that there are many conflicting interests at stake. While the use of chemical weapons is morally reprehensible, and I found the videos release of alleged attack unconscionable, I'm not sure what asserting moral superiority is going to accomplish here other than more strained international relations.

 

[muir]

Syria is an ally of Iran

The alliance of US, UK and Israel all want to isolate Iran; this involves taking out its ally Syria

The political elite of the US, UK and Israel are heavily involved in banking, oil and weapons manufacturing. They not only want to dominate the oil of the middle east region, but they also want to ensure oil is always traded in dollars (petro-dollars)

Many countries don't want to trade oil in dollars so the UK/USA/Israel alliance has invaded countries one by one to ensure they do

They knocked off afghanistan, then iraq, then libya and now syria is next. The next target after syria will be Iran

In order to wage an illegal war the US/UK/Israel alliance (ie the neoliberal countries dominated by the 4 big oil companies and the central bankers who manage their money) must have an excuse

They are paying mercenaries to fight in Syria against the syrian government. The CIA and mossad are supplying weapons and money to the 'rebels'

The CIA and mossad have supplied the syrian rebels with chemical weapons which they have used against the syrian public. The western corporate media which is owned by the same people behind the 4 big oil companies and the central banks is now telling the western public that it is the syrian government which has gassed its own population!!!!!!

Assad has nothing to gain by gassing his own population....in fact that would be a suicidal move on his part as it would lose him all his support

Assad is NOT gassing his own people. The powerful moneyed elite that controls the USA, UK and Israel are behind the gassings

They are doing this to frame Assad so that they can use this as an excuse to go to war in Syria....its all LIES

 

[Gul Dukat]

Assad wasn't exactly big on human rights in the past... he has massacred 10s of thousands of people in his country in the past during another insurrection, so there is no real reason to assume that he wouldn't be capable or willing to do anything to suppress another potential uprising.

 

[just me]

Syria is an ally of Iran

The alliance of US, UK and Israel all want to isolate Iran; this involves taking out its ally Syria

The political elite of the US, UK and Israel are heavily involved in banking, oil and weapons manufacturing. They not only want to dominate the oil of the middle east region, but they also want to ensure oil is always traded in dollars (petro-dollars)

Many countries don't want to trade oil in dollars so the UK/USA/Israel alliance has invaded countries one by one to ensure they do

They knocked off afghanistan, then iraq, then libya and now syria is next. The next target after syria will be Iran

In order to wage an illegal war the US/UK/Israel alliance (ie the neoliberal countries dominated by the 4 big oil companies and the central bankers who manage their money) must have an excuse

They are paying mercenaries to fight in Syria against the syrian government. The CIA and mossad are supplying weapons and money to the 'rebels'

The CIA and mossad have supplied the syrian rebels with chemical weapons which they have used against the syrian public. The western corporate media which is owned by the same people behind the 4 big oil companies and the central banks is now telling the western public that it is the syrian government which has gassed its own population!!!!!!

Assad has nothing to gain by gassing his own population....in fact that would be a suicidal move on his part as it would lose him all his support

Assad is NOT gassing his own people. The powerful moneyed elite that controls the USA, UK and Israel are behind the gassings

They are doing this to frame Assad so that they can use this as an excuse to go to war in Syria....its all LIES

[MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION], CIA and Mossad are not delivering CBWs to Syria when they are already there. There is somewhat of an ethnic cleansing going on between the Sausi Sunnis and the Shiites. Churches and Sunni mosques are being bombed after Friday prayers. Hezbollah is fighting against and type of aggression standing against Assad's Allawites and the Shia. You are watching a war being fought with a liberal Socialist President at the helm, who is doing everything he can NOT to piss off Russia, to help both sides sell more arms there, and to try and beg Putin for a way out of the war so the two of them can show political gain......................................................Syria is also a smoke-bomb to allow Iran continuance of its global WMD programs. Obama will do nothing without prior approval of Putin. Putin controls the war in Syria and has gained Hezbollah as a new ally. If CIA were that involved, Dahyla and other Hezbollah strongholds in Lebanon would be accosted to bring Hezbollah home out of Syria. Obama's failures in Egypt(his goals that were stepped on by outside help that knew what he was after) have greatly discredited the US in ME affairs...................................................................................Putin, as far as it goes, is the only man that really understands the dynamics of the Syrian war and is doing everything he can to help the situation, though at his own advantage and Assad's advantage. The Shia wars will eventually bring Iran into a war, but not because of their WMDs. Beirut, Damascus, Tehran? Nothing without Putin. America? Nothing without a credible leader. The Saudi funds and Israel's strengths would do best fixing Sinai and Egypt's downfalls from Obama's cronies. CIA would not have used Sarin under the guise of tear gas, so someone did that to hide its use.

 

[Deathjam]

Syria is an ally of Iran

The alliance of US, UK and Israel all want to isolate Iran; this involves taking out its ally Syria

The political elite of the US, UK and Israel are heavily involved in banking, oil and weapons manufacturing. They not only want to dominate the oil of the middle east region, but they also want to ensure oil is always traded in dollars (petro-dollars)

Many countries don't want to trade oil in dollars so the UK/USA/Israel alliance has invaded countries one by one to ensure they do

They knocked off afghanistan, then iraq, then libya and now syria is next. The next target after syria will be Iran

In order to wage an illegal war the US/UK/Israel alliance (ie the neoliberal countries dominated by the 4 big oil companies and the central bankers who manage their money) must have an excuse

They are paying mercenaries to fight in Syria against the syrian government. The CIA and mossad are supplying weapons and money to the 'rebels'

The CIA and mossad have supplied the syrian rebels with chemical weapons which they have used against the syrian public. The western corporate media which is owned by the same people behind the 4 big oil companies and the central banks is now telling the western public that it is the syrian government which has gassed its own population!!!!!!

Assad has nothing to gain by gassing his own population....in fact that would be a suicidal move on his part as it would lose him all his support

Assad is NOT gassing his own people. The powerful moneyed elite that controls the USA, UK and Israel are behind the gassings

They are doing this to frame Assad so that they can use this as an excuse to go to war in Syria....its all LIES

this argument kind of falls apart when the uk decided not to take any military action

 

[ThisIsWhoIAm]

Syriasly...

What do you guys think about the whole situation? Do you guys believe the hype in the media? Do you think it's propaganda? How much oil is over there?

To me, they appear to be using the same strategy they used in Libya. 1) Civil war 2) Make claims the current government is using immoral means to defend their regime 3) Use it as justification to invade 4) Put people in place who will play by our rules.

It was painful to watch Libya get torn to pieces. Hope I'm not going to witness the same shit all over again.

Where have you been for the past 2.5 years? Syria is already torn to bits. Over 120,000 dead and still counting. Not much to do about it though. If Hitler and Musolini were slug fighting, we would all stand and watch(nobody wants either to win).

If Obama interferes with a military action it will be so little, just to put a "check" on the 'not letting people use chemical weapons' and then move on, without changing the balance between the regime and the 'rebels'.

 

[ThisIsWhoIAm]

The powerful moneyed elite that controls the USA, UK and Israel are behind the gassings

I'd never gas any citizens in Syria. I would, however, definitely gas you, little paranoid basement kid.

Edit: People shocked at my post? Well fuck you, you aint getting missiles on your head for christmas, i am.

 

[just me]

I'd never gas any citizens in Syria. I would, however, definitely gas you, little paranoid basement kid.

Edit: People shocked at my post? Well fuck you, you aint getting missiles on your head for christmas, i am.

Most people do not have a clue how this could play out, and living underneath the direct threat of missile attacks every single day is where our Senators should live at least a year....with their families.....to be better able to help them make decisions they have little if no understanding about.

 

[muir]

this argument kind of falls apart when the uk decided not to take any military action

No it doesn't...the US will go in unilaterally without UK military involvement. The UK will no doubt continue to provide more covert support. Besides they already are taking action.

You don't need to take my word for this a lot of it is in the mainstream media already. Below is an article in the washington post admitting the CIA is supporting the rebels:

http://www.breakingnews.sy/en/article/3344.html

Its interesting to note that there are even high ranking people in the Israeli military and intelligence services that do not want war with Iran. All these actions come from above...they come from the top of the pyramid

That vote in the commons was pretty close though: 285 votes to 272.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it cameron lol! That's progress man.....people are getting wise and war weary

The Israel/US/Uk alliance is already firing tomahawk missiles from subs and using fighter jets to hit targets in syria

They just want to try and make their actions legal but they couldn't do this in the iraq war so they just went ahead anyway. They couldn't get a UN resolution and one of the main rules for UN membership is that you do not attack another country unless it has attacked you hence the whole 'pre-emptive strike' controversy

 

[muir]

I'd never gas any citizens in Syria. I would, however, definitely gas you, little paranoid basement kid.

Edit: People shocked at my post? Well fuck you, you aint getting missiles on your head for christmas, i am.

That's where you and i differ. I wouldn't gas anyone

The danger in syria and Iran is that they have allegiances with the BRICS nations. There is a polarity in the world at the moment between the neoliberal countries dominated by the central bankers and big oil and on the other side the rest of the world lead by the BRICS nations

If everyone gets pulled into this one ala world war 1 then things could get very messy, seeing as many parties on both sides have nuclear weapons...which would of course means bombs on everyones head in a biblical style apocalypse ala the armies of gog and magog

Incidentally Bush snrs nickname in the skull and bones society was magog...weird huh?

 

[muir]

Most people do not have a clue how this could play out, and living underneath the direct threat of missile attacks every single day is where our Senators should live at least a year....with their families.....to be better able to help them make decisions they have little if no understanding about.

The british had bombs dropped on their heads in world war one and two and we have had IRA bombings since for decades. Now we get bombings by the secret services which are blamed on 'terrorists'

Personally i think bombs are only the most visible way in which this war is being waged

I think we are all under attack through a number of different means...i think we are all on the front line if not facing the immediacy of a bullet or bomb

But don't let Israelis tell you that because they don't feel safe the solution is to bomb more people....that way of thinking is redundant

 

[muir]

@muir , CIA and Mossad are not delivering CBWs to Syria when they are already there. There is somewhat of an ethnic cleansing going on between the Sausi Sunnis and the Shiites. Churches and Sunni mosques are being bombed after Friday prayers.

Here's an article about how the benghazi attack conceals a far murkier situation where the CIA was smuggling weapons from Libya into Syria:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/source...rebels-during-benghazi-embassy-attack/5345037

The corporate media wants to portray this as a sunni v's shia conflict but thats not really what is going on here. The el-ite behind all this DO want to sow seeds of discord between different groups and they DO want the pulbic in the west to just roll their eyes and say ''those muslims are all crazy....there they are killing each other again'' but the reality is that the CIA and its allies are fanning all the flames

You know all these bombs that keep going off all over the place? eg Iraq, Syria, Europe, US etc. Who do you think is behind those? Most of the time it is the CIA and their allies

They want to create chaos because if you can keep all the workers divided they are easier to control. Divide and rule. They destabilise places....its what they do best

There are various monarchies in the gulf states. These monarchies have been propped up by the US/UK and Israel for a long time now. They are sitting on vast amounts of oil that the US/UK/Israel alliance (zionists) wants (the big 4 oil companies weild vast power in these countries and are pretty integrated into government)

The alliance gets access to the oil and in return it provides protection to the gulf state monarchies and sells them tons and tons of weapons eg tanks, fighters etc. thi is why the alliance has tens of thousands of military personnel stationed in the gulf.....to protect their oil interests

The gulf monarchs help to disrupt OPEC to help the zionists get cheap oil. For example the zionists help the gulf states that support them get rich in return for them voting in OPEC to keep the cost of oil down. The countries that have always wanted to raise the price of oil so that they can develop their countries have been attacked by the zionists militaries

OPEC countries are made up of price 'hawks' and price 'doves'. The hawks want to raise oil prices and the doves wnat to keep prices down. The zionists want prices down so they have effectively bought the loyalty of the royal families of some of the oil producing countries...do you understand? They haven't given wealth to all the OPEC countries...they just bought a few of them...enough of them to keep prices down

The wealth doesn't generally trickle down in these states though which is why there are protests kicking off in a lot of them. I am still waiting for the protests to kick off in saudi arabia cos that one is really ripe for it.....but it is just heavily policed...it is a police state and any people who resist the royal family are imprisoned, tortured and often murdered

This is one reason why the zionist countries are so unpopular because they support repressive regimes and they block the development of democracy in the middle east

Here is US, jewish intellectual Noam Chomsky expalining this VERY clearly. He quotes the US government itself...please listen carefully:

[video=youtube;6pfcW0_sSuw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pfcW0_sSuw[/video]

Hezbollah is fighting against and type of aggression standing against Assad's Allawites and the Shia.

Hezbollah know that if syria falls Iran is next, that is why they are involved.

Below is a link to a clip of a US 4 star general explaining the long term plan of the zionists which is to topple all the OPEC price hawks and their allies one by one to take control of the oil, please listen carefully. Its important to understand that all these plans come from the very top....many people in the zionist controlled countries DO NOT AGREE WITH ALL THIS WAR but we are all constantly dragged into wars by the cabal at the top:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

You are watching a war being fought with a liberal Socialist President at the helm, who is doing everything he can NOT to piss off Russia, to help both sides sell more arms there, and to try and beg Putin for a way out of the war so the two of them can show political gain.............................................. ........

I keep having to expalin this to US americans who i talk to online....these guys are not 'socialists'. That word has been deliberately missused to hide form people what socialism really is.

Socialism is when the workers control the means of production NOT a central government. The cabal who tell Obama what to do do NOT want the workers to own and control the means of production.

That is exactly what they don't want. What the cabal want is a strong government, which they will control which will police the workers and protect the interests of the cabal and its corporations. What socialists want is no government. The word socialism has been repeatedly missused by the corporate owned media to mean a system where there is a big government controlling things centrally but that is NOT socialism

below is another clip of chomsky explaining this very clearly, please listen carefully:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriQGI5NGOM

This is why the cabal assassinate nationalist leaders like Nasser and why they attack communists (true communists) in the middle east because nationalists want to protect their countries from outside interference ie the central bankers. They want to nationalise their countries assets eg oil whislt the central bankers want to 'liberalise' them ie privatise them so that they can buy them up for themselves. Once something is privatised it is treated as a cash cow and people get exploited

Whenever you see a strong nationalist leader standing up against the bankers he is labelled in the western media a 'dictator' and is demonised. The bankers then try to assassinate, bribe, intimidate or invade.

How the cabal operate is that they go into a country that they want to control an they say to its leader: ''we want you to do this (eg give us your resources cheaply). If you do this we will make you rich. If you don't do this we will kill you''

This approach is mentioned in the godfather movies and is referred to as ''making someone an offer they can't refuse''

Below is a link to one of the economic hitmen who used to do this for the cabal confessing about his activities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nndAWd6w7xo

Syria is also a smoke-bomb to allow Iran continuance of its global WMD programs.

Iran is legally allowed under UN law to develop nuclear energy

If Iran is also aiming to develop a bomb then frankly i cannot blame them. The zionists overthrew the democractically elected government in Iran in 1953. I have said the CIA did this on the forum for years now and just recently it was declassified confirming its true. This doesn't stop some people from calling me crazy or members of the israeli military threatening to gas me on this forum for telling the truth

As well as this you have people like the general in the clip i posted above telling the Iranians that they are next. Further to that you have the US president Bush telling Iran they are 'evil' and part of an 'axis of evil'. Also the US and Israel have been found to be behind the Stuxnet computer virus launched against Iran. i said they did this before on this forum and was probably called crazy

So Iran is scared as is North Korea, one of the other countries mentioned as part of the 'axis of evil'. Both desperately want to be able to defend themselves form outside aggresison

Of course the western corporate media try to tell us that Iran want a bomb to destroy Israel! This would be suicidal for Iran to do this because Israel has over 200 nuclear bombs and it has nuclear submarines supplied from germany. So any country striking Israel would be annihilated. Israel refuses to sign the international nuclear non proliferation treaty and it WON'T allow UN weapons inspectors in to see its nuclear arsenal. It has also been condemned under the geneva convention for crimes against civilians....do you undertsand? It is behaving in a criminal way

Iran does not want to bomb Israel, it wants to be able to stop Israel invading it

To show just how absurd the narrative of the corporate media is that Iran is a big bully and Israel a poor victim, please look at the following map. They are lying to you:

Obama will do nothing without prior approval of Putin.

Sure he will

Obama is the figurehead of the international bankers. The international bankers want what they are calling a 'new world order' where there is a centrally controlled government with a single centrally controlled currency: a 'unipolar world'. Putin does not want this; he wants a 'multi-polar world' where there are many centres of power

It is an ideological struggle...in truth the cold war never ended

Below is a clip to a speech by Putin explaining this ideological difference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjdtS9BCOXg

Putin controls the war in Syria and has gained Hezbollah as a new ally.

He doesn't control it, but he doesn't want to see the unipolar crowd (neoliberal central bankers) control all the oilfields of the middle east. Putin wants the BRICS nations to develop their economies and to eclispe the central bankers neoliberakl system. The BRICS countries want to see a more even and democratic world

Please read the following article from the russian state controlled news outlet 'RT' (Russia Today) to better understand what i am saying here:

http://rt.com/op-edge/brics-economy-us-dollar-118/

This is why Russia has talked about proviiding the Assad regime with anti aircraft missiles...so that they can defend themselves from the zionist airforces who swept across Iraq bombing it back decades in its development, destroying bridges, roads, airfeilds, hospitals, schools and even a baby milk powder factory

If CIA were that involved, Dahyla and other Hezbollah strongholds in Lebanon would be accosted to bring Hezbollah home out of Syria. Obama's failures in Egypt(his goals that were stepped on by outside help that knew what he was after) have greatly discredited the US in ME affairs........................................... ........................................

The zionist CIA hate Hezbollah. Hezbollah stood up against the Israelis when they invaded Lebanon and drove them out albeit after the israelis had killed over a thousand civilians

Incidentally hezbollah members were killed in the gas attacks....ask yourself...would assad gas his own allies?

Putin, as far as it goes, is the only man that really understands the dynamics of the Syrian war and is doing everything he can to help the situation, though at his own advantage and Assad's advantage. The Shia wars will eventually bring Iran into a war, but not because of their WMDs. Beirut, Damascus, Tehran? Nothing without Putin. America? Nothing without a credible leader. The Saudi funds and Israel's strengths would do best fixing Sinai and Egypt's downfalls from Obama's cronies. CIA would not have used Sarin under the guise of tear gas, so someone did that to hide its use.

Putin wants to stop the cabal getting total control over middle eastern oil

The saudis and israelis are under the control of the cabal so of course they support the so called 'rebels' in syria which are really foreign mercenaries paid for by the cabal

There have been a spate of prison breaks across the middle east....these have been orchestrated by the cabal. They have released prisoners and sent them to syria as mercenaries

The 'rebel' army has been caught carrying out various atrocities such as executions, burning people and one leader even released a video online of him eating the heart of someone he had just executed

Rememeber that is what the cabal is using your tax dollars for....to support these viscious murderers

But these murderers are not behaving in these crazy ways for nothing....they have been given CIA manuals that tell them how to wage psychological warfare on their enemies. These manuals were also used by the CIA created death squads in south and central america for example the contra rebels.

The manual is called: Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare.

Here is a link to article about this in the Boston Phoenix from 1987...it is well worth a read if you want to really know what is going on:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/CIA/The case_against_the_cia.htm

 

[Stu]

yeesh. have you ( [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] ) ever heard of Occam's Razor?

Without a doubt the US is in charge of the oil production in Saudi Arabia, it would have to be when you consider the amount of money that is moving from the west to the Saudis. It is also vital to the western economies that that money get cycled back into them, or they will collapse. The people left out are the citizens of the Arab states.

Chomsky analysis is astute.

That said, Syria is in a tragic state and her people are victims of the crime of governmental chaos. We sit here and shake our heads saying nothing can be done or wonder what can be done. Your posts, elaborate as they are, offer the reasonable citizen of the western states no course of action, none.

ok let the 6000 word and 50 mins of video rebuttal begin.

 

[just me]

The intelligence I personally believe does not come from the same old sources that are anti-government anti-Zionist anti-everything people. Your sources are not the God-given right-minded sources you think they are.

 

[muir]

yeesh. have you (@muir ) ever heard of Occam's Razor?

Without a doubt the US is in charge of the oil production in Saudi Arabia, it would have to be when you consider the amount of money that is moving from the west to the Saudis. It is also vital to the western economies that that money get cycled back into them, or they will collapse. The people left out are the citizens of the Arab states.

Chomsky analysis is astute.

That said, Syria is in a tragic state and her people are victims of the crime of governmental chaos. We sit here and shake our heads saying nothing can be done or wonder what can be done. Your posts, elaborate as they are, offer the reasonable citizen of the western states no course of action, none.

ok let the 6000 word and 50 mins of video rebuttal begin.

If you don't want a reply post from someone knowing that they disagree with you, then perhaps you shouldn't try and provoke a response from them?

Can you understand that what i am saying is pushing against the corporate line on this thing?

Because many people currently get a lot of their info from the corporate news it is not uncommon that their views are shaped by the corporate view on things

So can you see that if a person (me in this case) is going to try and overturn that corporate viewpoint that its going to need a fair amount of counter info?

Can you also appreciate that a person going against the corporate grain will then come under fire from those that are currently seeing events through the corporate view filter? (you can surely see this by how many people i am currently exchanging posts with on this thread alone?)

This means that if we want to have both sides (both views) given a decent hearing then you will need to let people like me present our argument

I have heard of occams razor and i would caution people in regards to that. occam's razor is just one tool......it is just one tool for people to have in their tool box. If you apply that tool to every situation you will get a lot of stuff wrong

I have offered lots of courses of action as to what western citizens can do about all this. I have mentioned the need again and again for people to understand what is really happening as that will then inform how they vote, how they earn their money, how they spend their money and how they store their money.

As chomsky says for a western government to act they need to first 'manufacture the consent' of the public, which is easy to do if the public are not aware of what is really going on

But a fully aware and switched on citizen is not going to give their consent for this endless war that the moneyed el-ite want to wage against the rest of humanity

 

[muir]

The intelligence I personally believe does not come from the same old sources that are anti-government anti-Zionist anti-everything people. Your sources are not the God-given right-minded sources you think they are.

Some of the sources i gave were government quotes, some were from ex-military, some were from ex CIA and the final link was to an article about a legal trial the CIA lost that exposed their execution and torture squads in Nicaragua

If these aren't good sources then there aren't any others because these ARE the people directly involved in all these actions

What you will not get from the banking cabal is a signed confession

Why not look at each of the pieces of evidence i have presented individually and assess them each on their own merits

These people are not 'anti everything', they are pro-freedom, pro-human rights, pro-peace....they're pretty clear about that if you listen to what they say

Please research into what i have said

 

[Stu]

but ( [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] ) your brand of "awareness" boarders on racism. It is extremely difficult to read arguments that are laced with references to a Jewish conspiracy to buy everything and fire everybody.

 

[muir]

but ( @muir ) your brand of "awareness" boarders on racism. It is extremely difficult to read arguments that are laced with references to a Jewish conspiracy to buy everything and fire everybody.

You haven't been listening to what i'm saying

Zionist does not = jew

Many zionists are not jews and many jews are not zionists

The zionism i am talking about is run centrally by a small cabal at the top. The rothschilds are central to that.

The aim of this cabal is to dominate the worlds oil, money supply and various commodities including guns and drugs

The creation of Israel is just to set up a forward base in the major oil region. The cabal are using jews as pawns just as they are using christians and muslims as pawns in their games

The cabal ARE NOT ADHERENTS TO THE JEWISH FAITH ie THEY ARE NOT JEWS

 

[Gul Dukat]

muir you seem to be pretty black and white about things-- no one is claiming that the US is good and Assad is bad... but it's really not unrealistic to assume that someone with a history of human rights abuses might be responsible for this kind of barbarism. You on the other hand seem pretty set in your narrative about poor innocent Assad being under fire from the nasty barbaric Americans who will stop at nothing to gain absolute power... it's just not realistic.