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Saving America. Recognizing the traitor and terrorist elements at work against it.

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This is going to be kind of a discussion blog.

America is under siege and has been for a long while. Elements within the world hate the freedom people in the US enjoy and represent to the rest of the world. It apparently is seen as a very threat to their existence. Today we have any number of countries desperately trying to control their population all while that population says, “We want what America has, they have it, why cant we?” With America gone it would make control of those same people much easier. Outside threats to America are fairly easy to determine, inside threats…some at least, a bit more difficult. America is a capitalist country just as the forefathers intended. Any threats to America’s way of life in this and other regards can be seen for what they are, treasonous and terrorist intent. Terrorism is the more physical threat but not any more damaging than that of treasonous internal assault.

Because socialism is a direct threat to capitalism it is a direct threat to America. Those engaging in the support and attempted implementation of it in this country need to be labeled for what they are, traitors to the American way of life, traitors to the American people. It is here we must ask that knowing this, how is it that the socialist agenda been allowed to thrive internally within the country? How have people like Bernie Sanders come to be accepted into the highest ranks of the government? How was Obama elected as President? Now, this has nothing to do with other countries that may have some moderate form of socialism implemented. This is a discussion about America its foundation and those elements trying to attack and destroy it.

This is a thread to talk about how we can more easily withdraw ourselves from the clutches of such a damaging enemy. An enemy so confidant now that it does not hide as it used to. It is also to talk about other direct threats as well.

With this brief entry let us begin the discussion. What can we do to stem the tide of traitors and terrorists that would see this great country crumble before an on looking world? What can we do to restore America fully to the idea it was built on and make sure the Constitution survives going into the future even as it suffers direct attack from the President himself. How can we do all of this and make America great again?
 
As can be seen in the provided article, Occupy Wall Street had serious communist support along with continued interest to this day. As anti-American as it gets. Dont be fooled by people who say. "Well it was about this or that." Occupy never had a clear message other than capitalism is bad and must go. The reoccurring theme that continues to this day. Yet protesters were allowed to stay far longer then any American could imagine whereas similar protests on the Tea Partys part were disbanded or completely shut down before they started. Later we found out that the IRS was directly effecting their ability to get their message out by tying their requests up with red tape.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/258385/occupy-wall-street-mainstreams-communism-matthew-vadum
 
As a beginning idea, we need to have a way of going to all American citizens and find out if they support any other form of government. We then need to go further and find out how likely they are to attempt to overthrow our government given the chance. If found to be a threat a few things need to happen. First and foremost their voting rights need to be removed. Next, their citizenship needs to be put into a question stage. Prove in x amount of time you will up hold the laws of the United States or become a second class citizen with few to any rights people who want to be American have. Third we need to look at who they have been communicating with and why.

This should have started during the Occupy movement. Actually....before. Each participant documented for later evaluation and investigation.

As another idea, voter IDs need to be implemented to make sure only Americans are voting in the elections.
 
You are an ISTJ, not an INTJ. You are using introverted sensing a lot in this post. And you are far too traditional to be an INTJ.

The rest of your post isn't very interesting, no offence. :)
 
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You are an ISTJ, not an INTJ. You are using introverted sensing a lot in this post. And you are far too traditional to be an INTJ.

The rest of your post isn't very interesting, no offence. :)

No offense at all. I feel privileged that you would spend one of two posts you have made on me.
Thank you for your insight.
 
(Most) People here don't have a clue.
 
They hate our freedom? It must be something else, hating our freedom is the dumbest cliche. America isn't the only free country.
 
You are an ISTJ, not an INTJ. You are using introverted sensing a lot in this post. And you are far too traditional to be an INTJ.

The rest of your post isn't very interesting, no offence. :)

Oh oh type me!! *raises hand* x3
 
As a beginning idea, we need to have a way of going to all American citizens and find out if they support any other form of government. We then need to go further and find out how likely they are to attempt to overthrow our government given the chance. If found to be a threat a few things need to happen. First and foremost their voting rights need to be removed. Next, their citizenship needs to be put into a question stage. Prove in x amount of time you will up hold the laws of the United States or become a second class citizen with few to any rights people who want to be American have. Third we need to look at who they have been communicating with and why.

This should have started during the Occupy movement. Actually....before. Each participant documented for later evaluation and investigation.

As another idea, voter IDs need to be implemented to make sure only Americans are voting in the elections.

i think America is a democracy?
 
You are an ISTJ, not an INTJ. You are using introverted sensing a lot in this post. And you are far too traditional to be an INTJ.

The rest of your post isn't very interesting, no offence. :)

Not sure why this was even necessary.
 
You are an ISTJ, not an INTJ. You are using introverted sensing a lot in this post. And you are far too traditional to be an INTJ.

The rest of your post isn't very interesting, no offence. :)

yes with SpecialEdition. expressing unsolicited suppositions about the types of others is inflammatory, not to mention irrelevant. you do not know others as well as they know themselves. stay on topic.
 
I find that America is an Idea that is sold rather than a dream that is realized. I think America does a pretty good job of selling the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave stereotype but I do not think that it fulfills either... unless what those phrases mean is that anyone can come to the states and do as they please (unless you're gay, using drugs, aborting a baby, etc) and that anyone from the states can join the army and "bravely" infiltrate other countries and bomb the shit out of them to try to instill their idea of what "freedom" is.

There's a lot of money to be made in the USA and I think that is why people like the idea of it. America has this feeling of potential and I think that a lot of people are attracted to that. From the outside it must seem like the place to be and I can see why others would want to have a slice of that pie for themselves. HOWEVER, I also think a lot of people are emotionally moved by the conditions of other people and are easily manipulated into putting certain infrastructure in place to support them. As a whole I am not against unifying people and ensuring that basic needs are met in terms of clothing, food, shelter, water, education, etc. I think a lot of people are starting to shift into the sort of thinking that looks a lot like "I want people to be provided for but only in a way that is convenient for me and will not take away from the life I am living and the future I want to create for myself." I also think that there are a lot of movements happening around race, sexuality, class division, etc and I think that some of it misses the greater point of what it is to live in a diverse and free country because there is a lot of internal hatred amongst citizens and a lot of different ideas about what is right and wrong and best for everyone.

At the end of the day people are generally out for themselves and how they feel. I don't think there is a way to change that no matter who is in power or who is making the most noise.
 
I find that America is an Idea that is sold rather than a dream that is realized. I think America does a pretty good job of selling the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave stereotype but I do not think that it fulfills either... unless what those phrases mean is that anyone can come to the states and do as they please (unless you're gay, using drugs, aborting a baby, etc) and that anyone from the states can join the army and "bravely" infiltrate other countries and bomb the shit out of them to try to instill their idea of what "freedom" is.

There's a lot of money to be made in the USA and I think that is why people like the idea of it. America has this feeling of potential and I think that a lot of people are attracted to that. From the outside it must seem like the place to be and I can see why others would want to have a slice of that pie for themselves. HOWEVER, I also think a lot of people are emotionally moved by the conditions of other people and are easily manipulated into putting certain infrastructure in place to support them. As a whole I am not against unifying people and ensuring that basic needs are met in terms of clothing, food, shelter, water, education, etc. I think a lot of people are starting to shift into the sort of thinking that looks a lot like "I want people to be provided for but only in a way that is convenient for me and will not take away from the life I am living and the future I want to create for myself." I also think that there are a lot of movements happening around race, sexuality, class division, etc and I think that some of it misses the greater point of what it is to live in a diverse and free country because there is a lot of internal hatred amongst citizens and a lot of different ideas about what is right and wrong and best for everyone.

At the end of the day people are generally out for themselves and how they feel. I don't think there is a way to change that no matter who is in power or who is making the most noise.

I agree mostly but I dont think theres a single reason people like the idea of America. I have admittedly not spent time living in other countries though I have spent time visiting. While this cant be said for the places I have not visited of those I have I have been struck with how few things are in place to keep people from hurting themselves. No fences around bridges. Huge spiked fences around property that if you arent watching what you are doing you can easily impale yourself on. In these countries the freedom to be ignorant and mess yourself up is clearly greater than here in this regard. Anyway the point is, I think people come to America mostly because they are trying to get away from their own countries problems. Some for roads paved with gold but most to have a better life than they can perceive having anywhere else. Freedom to not be persecuted for beliefs etc. Its not a perfect freedom but its better than where a lot of outsiders come from.
 
They hate our freedom? It must be something else, hating our freedom is the dumbest cliche. America isn't the only free country.

Yes we can squabble about what real freedom is. Who has more etc.. America simply has a lot more freedom than other countries. Freedom for women to vote, freedom to make a life of your own choosing. The recognition that all men are created equal even though it has taken us a long long time to actually recognize that...

Its not necessarily freedom itself they hate. Its the possibility of what it brings with it.
 
America is a capitalist country just as the forefathers intended. Any threats to America’s way of life in this and other regards can be seen for what they are, treasonous and terrorist intent. Terrorism is the more physical threat but not any more damaging than that of treasonous internal assault.
So any contemplation of an economic system other than what is commonly accepted as capitalism by a US Citizen is treason?
That's bologna! Our constitution guarantees us the right, nay the duty, to make changes to our society. It gives us a format to do it and preserves the right of the minority to put the breaks on any change that is not overwhelmingly accepted by the citizenry.

This adherence to an economic system, framed as it is, reeks of religious dogma.