I was reading this article on Buddhism and Marxism today and I was captivated by the metaphor of Indra's Net... The whole article called to mind my seemingly neverending spiritual search and quest to understand my value/worth. I recalled a previous thread of mine here and the reply by @Headstorm there. (Where is he?!) https://www.infjs.com/threads/intrinsic-vs-instrumental-value.35975/ I recalled being struck at the time by trying to grasp his take that value is based in interdependence. At the time it lit my brain because it had felt intuitively solid, and utterly unfamiliar. I had summarized my very novice understanding as: Which relates to this from the article: So if I, and every other conceptual illusion that is considered a thing, are actually no-things, then my only definition, my only worth, is as a relationship within the net? I am the sum total of what I reflect? I contain everything and everything contains me? My drive to be connected is illusory because all I am is connection? Striving to find a comparative worth or value is nonsensical because the inherent worth is the net, of which everything is? In terms of societal worth, anything I privately worry I am less than, or secretly pridefully think I am better than, I am? Whew. Again, this feels so intuitively solid, and so culturally and experientially foriegn. Then, practically, does recognition of no-self lead to true equality? From the article: We manifest what we are in our relations...in our reflections, as reflections. So, my question is how? Such calls to action - work on our inner Tyrannosaurus...become less selfish. Yes, lovely, wonderful, we should do that. Yet, evil, hatred, competition is part of the net, which we are. Can we really just, ...not be that? Is it actually that simple? Does the one who says, I am free of that, actually betray themselves, just by thinking that they are? By thinking they've accomplished what others haven't, by placing themselves in a hierarchy and separating themselves within that hierarchy? Evil, hatred, competition exist. Therefore, I am not free of them. I am what I am in relationship with...all things. Right? So, can we be rid of these things? Really? How?