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Is Obama stirring another hornet's nest to leave it to someone else?

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Is Obama planning to half(way) start something in Syria, only to back away and let someone else have to deal with the repercussions? Awful lot of naval and other movement in the areas near there. Hezbollah is even moving their missiles to safer grounds. Iran is threatening America again. Does Obama have a full understanding of the arena, clearly defined objectives, and the resolve to complete them? Has he evaluated the cost for the US and their allies? The citizens of the arena? Is he prepared for the blowback and what will be left to deal with? Is he trying to place the Muslim Brotherhood in charge of the area, given the dynamics that will cause much harm to other religions and peoples? Can Obama afford to allow Assad to continue on his path, knowing the stance he took in Egypt and Libya? Will he be considered twofaced if he does nothing?

Any thoughts?
 
I think Obama should address verbally address the situation in Syria, putting a spotlight on the atrocities being committed there. Only through a cooperative effort involving other countries can we appropriately conquer international threats. I do not believe in reacting with an attitude of self-defense or entitlement to encroach on borders, but rather with a humane and righteous approach.

I believe that we should expose Iran's insanity vehemently, call for a unified effort on behalf of the United Nations and any other country committed to justice to put Iran's uncalled for and antagonistic nuclear program to rest. It is obvious that Ahmadinejad is nothing less than a mentally unstable tyrant. His holocaust denial, anti-Western and apparently anti-Semitic attitude conflict with the most basic of human values and international accepted common sense.

Hezbollah are a bunch of terrorists and are against the only stable country in the Middle East: Israel. While I disagree with their government's treatment of the Palestinians and I believe they have a responsibility for their occupants (remember, Israel is not the occupant - around 2600 years Israel was theirs and then it was forcibly ripped from their ownership). We should call for action against them in this humanitarian plead to the UN and the nations of the world.

Atrocities are being committed daily. It might cause unrest among the countries of the world for us to mount a diplomatic and verbal campaign against movements intrinsically evil and threatening to humanity; however, I believe that it is our duty as a powerful (or once-powerful) nation to stomach social conflict in order to secure the greater good for our human brothers and sisters.

I hope this isn't an insane approach.
 
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Obama is not the decision maker. He's just the spokesman for the decision makers.
It sure looks as if Libya was just a dress rehearsal for Syria. And after that they probably want to get at Iran, and that will have far reaching consequences.

I highly doubt that those decision makers are INFJs.
 
I highly doubt that those decision makers are INFJs.

Nobody understand meh. T_T

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Elections are brewing.
 
Nobody understand meh. T_T

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Yes, he feels highly misunderstood. He just turned around a ship that was stopped by our Navy heading to Burma.
 
Obama is not the decision maker. He's just the spokesman for the decision makers.
It sure looks as if Libya was just a dress rehearsal for Syria. And after that they probably want to get at Iran, and that will have far reaching consequences.

I highly doubt that those decision makers are INFJs.

Wonder who decided on the visit to Puerto Rico: his campaign managers?

Assad, in my opinion, is just doing what most others would do in his situation. He is not unlike Gadaffi, who knows more about what and who he is fighting than outsiders. It is a shame people do not think down the road in regards to their actions. Civil war is a serious situation. Killing will happen when the actions look as if they are heading to civil war....on all sides. Mubarak? Not unlike the others. They will be looked at as victims as much as criminals one day.

The White House needs an infj.....somewhere.
 
Barack Obama is a man of color. :eyebrows:
 
Hearing Obama speak about the middle east gives me confidence in him because you can really tell how much he understands about the situation. He doesn't make rash decisions. He's too moderate for me but I trust him.
 
Hearing Netanyahu talk about the Middle East is like hearing from experience. Hearing Obama talk about it is, at least to me, frightening from his lack of understanding the complicated dynamics of the region.
 
Hearing Obama talk about it is, at least to me, frightening from his lack of understanding the complicated dynamics of the region.

The guy is clueless. He became president only because he won a popularity contest.
Take his teleprompter and speechwriters away and he will look as smart as Bush.
 
The guy is clueless. He became president only because he won a popularity contest.
Take his teleprompter and speechwriters away and he will look as smart as Bush.

They call it democracy.
 
Hearing Netanyahu talk about the Middle East is like hearing from experience. Hearing Obama talk about it is, at least to me, frightening from his lack of understanding the complicated dynamics of the region.
I get the opposite vibe. Watching his talk with Bill O"Reilly as well as his other interviews makes me see how much he knows. Keith Olbermann talks about an off the record interview he did with some press a while back. Keith said he's one of the 1000 smartest men in America. You may think that Keith is biased and yatta yatta yatta but he's very smart and when he says something like that, he's probably right.

The guy is clueless. He became president only because he won a popularity contest.
Take his teleprompter and speechwriters away and he will look as smart as Bush.

I'm talking interviews, not speeches. He's one of the most honest presidents since fdr and one of the smartest that we've ever had.
 
I get the opposite vibe. Watching his talk with Bill O"Reilly as well as his other interviews makes me see how much he knows. Keith Olbermann talks about an off the record interview he did with some press a while back. Keith said he's one of the 1000 smartest men in America. You may think that Keith is biased and yatta yatta yatta but he's very smart and when he says something like that, he's probably right.



I'm talking interviews, not speeches. He's one of the most honest presidents since fdr and one of the smartest that we've ever had.

What I think is from my own mind and not from that of some guy named Keith.
 
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