I struggle to understand the thinking of the ideological and religious. I really do. It isn't based on reason. It isn't based on values. It isn't based on virtue. It isn't based on happiness or any real philosophical precept. Over the course of every debate I have ever had with ideological and religious thinkers, I have approached it from every one of those angles. They may supplement their beliefs with those aspects, but the actual core of their beliefs has nothing to do with them. I've come to the conclusion that it is mindless groupthink. When Fe is taken to the extreme and people do everything they can to minimize conflict by establishing a set of social norms that they feel must be adhered to at all costs in order to maintain the harmony of the group, then you get the distortions of ideological thinking. Consensus is derived without critical thinking, analyzing, or evaluating. Take this recent story for example... Where is the critical thinking? Where is the analysis? Where is the evaluation? What evidence do they provide that this preacher is "helping" with the AIDs epidemic? What values are being served here? Is this the value of family and tradition? What virtues are being served by showing hardcore pornography in churches and community centers? How does stirring up anger and resentment serve that virtue? How is this increasing anyone's happiness or serving any greater good? The reality is that this is ideological thinking. This is the product of unrestrained Fe. This is why I so desperately call on NFJs to use that other judging function that they have in their possession. And yet I'm often met with resentment for doing so. Why? Because group identity is more important to you than humanity. You are willing to aid in the increase in the suffering of the world or stand idly by, simply to protect the cohesiveness of the group. Perhaps my charges are unfounded or I am overgeneralizing, but try to see yourselves as I have come to see you. INFJs are known as the Protectors, but do you really know what you are protecting and what you are willing to sacrifice to protect it?