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I am; am I?

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  1. NeverAmI

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    I was thinking about something that relates to this question. Which of the two do you relate to more?


     
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    this is very vague so with out much explanation my first instinct is; Am I?
     
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    am not might have been a nice peace to add to the puzzle
     
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    First instinct is what I'm going for. Thanks!
     
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    Descartes: I think therefore I am.
    Sartre: I am therefore I think.

    Me: I am and I think, but I'm not making any assumptions.

    But this is only peripheral to your question. I don't really relate to either of them. I don't really doubt my existence, but I don't affirm it either.
     
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    I wonder what "I am" relates to you guys, when I see or hear "I Am" I immediately think God.
     
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    Hmm perhaps too vague does exist for this question. I mean it about how you see yourself. Are you content to be or do you question who you are?
     
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    From these two, I relate more to "I am".
     
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    I am what I am. Human.
     
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    I am.

    Being it is another thing altogether, though.
     
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    I fluctuate between being, not being, and not caring. I doubt that I exist, then affirm that even if I don't, it doesn't matter, then question myself again, etc. etc...

    So I guess I relate more to "Am I?" and "Who cares?"

    EDIT: But I also think, "I am, to the extent that one can be."

    So really, I dunno.
     
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    more of the latter, though i'm apt to phrase it as "I am?" ;)
     
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    I agree in fact I had to edit my post because I originally typed I am? instead of Am I?
     
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    Same.

    Most existentialist philosophy for me ends in the acceptance of not knowing. Existence seems real enough that I work from the axiom that it is real. And even if existence isn't real, some substitute and/or simulation of it is real because I'm experiencing it.
     
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    sum ergo nom
     
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    i envy you, i am nowhere near accepting the uncertainty of existence yet. it's something i've got to know, for sure, if i'm to accept anything as definite which results from it.
     
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    Mine is a greatly resounding 'Am I?'
     
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    Sith Monkey ponders...

    :msith:
     
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    I am much more a "Am I?" person. I start with a general idea or prinicpal, and I must extract the details from that. Starting with the details and unifying it all is possible for me, but it is not automatic, takes a lot of effort, and in some cases it is actually inpossible (much to my dismay).
     
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