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Damn right. Fucking homos. They have no place in the Olympics.

/sarcasm

Look it's at least more than there have been in previous Olympics. Complaining that there's not enough gays in an event which has shown progress, no matter how slow, seems a bit silly to me.
 
Why ask me what you aready know? ;) (@uberrogo - this isn't picking up...)
UBERROGO said:
Why is that "insane", or even important?
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I mostly posted it because I was astounded at the low numbers, and I felt it was worth sharing.
 
Soulful said:
Why ask me what you aready know? ;)
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I mostly posted it because I was astounded at the low numbers, and I felt it was worth sharing.
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I guess I just am not surprised that people who have such huge goals arent interested in shoving their sexuality in my face (or letting the media do it instead of them). And that is really polite of them I think.
 
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UBERROGO said:
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I guess I just am not surprised that people who have such huge goals arent interested in shoving their sexuality in my face (or letting the media do it instead of them).
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Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't sure you were genuinely asking.

I think it's important because the gay community rarely receives the attention it deserves, and these numbers highlight a particular niche of the queer community that remains closeted. This isn't to say they should have a spotlight focused on them or that all of them necessarily wish to, but the reality is that many of these athletes do not lead private lives out of genuine choice and having to choose between being able to pursue one's passion and/or career and be treated with respect and acceptance by one's society should not be mutually exclusive possibilities, imo. Or having to go to great lengths to keep one's romantic life a secret ought not, imho, to be the requirement to remain safe, out of jail, and/or alive, as is the case for some athletes.
 
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Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't sure you were genuinely asking.

I think it's important because the gay community rarely receives the attention it deserves, and these numbers highlight a particular niche of the queer community that remains closeted. This isn't to say they should have a spotlight focused on them or that all of them necessarily wish to, but the reality is that many of these athletes do not lead private lives out of genuine choice and having to choose between being able to pursue one's passion and/or career and be treated with respect and acceptance by one's society should not be mutually exclusive possibilities, imo. Or having to go to great lengths to keep one's romantic life a secret ought not, imho, to be the requirement to remain safe, out of jail, and/or alive, as is the case for some athletes.
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Im actually glad that peoples sexuality in the Olympics isnt being discussed because who cares? Why is it anyones business? Im trying to watch people at the peak of fitness do extraordinary things, not watch a porno.

Or having to go to great lengths to keep one's romantic life a secret ought not, imho, to be the requirement to remain safe, out of jail, and/or alive, as is the case for some athletes.
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I think this is worth some discussion, but sometimes I just want to be involved in a sexuality-free activity. It looks like my hope for that kind of activity is slowly fading again. Thanks a lot homosexual community.
 
I have to agree with [MENTION=731]UBERROGO[/MENTION]. I fail to see why any of the athletes' sexuality is relevant. Is it really necessary to sexualize it at all? I mean, why would they want to shift the focus onto anything but the sport in which they excel? That is the whole purpose of the Olympics.
 
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I have to agree with @UBERROGO . I fail to see why any of the athletes' sexuality is relevant. Is it really necessary to sexualize it at all? I mean, why would they want to shift the focus onto anything but the sport in which they excel? That is the whole purpose of the Olympics.
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I don't think the athletes are speaking out about this, or at least not solely the athletes, as much as the queer community as a whole. I don't know how to explain it. It's just, think about how marginalized they are. I think (and I hope) I get what you're saying -- why does sexuality need to factor into this at all? Why does someone's private and intimate life need to be publicly broadcast, especially in relation to their career or their sport? And I don't think it ideally should. But I also don't think it's that simple or straightforward for the queer community. They are still a marginalized at best, and persecuted at worst, population in this world. Thus their identity is inherently political in a way that is publicly significant. They are highly invisible for a reason, and things like Pride and the basis behind this article has everything to do with that.

That's one perspective. There are many others, some which I'm sure contradict this by both queers and non-queers alike.
Sorry for the blabbering nature of this post, I am exhausted. I didn't sleep last night. But I hope that somehow makes sense and conveys a worthwhile idea.
 
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88chaz88 said:
Damn right. Fucking homos. They have no place in the Olympics.

/sarcasm

Look it's at least more than there have been in previous Olympics. Complaining that there's not enough gays in an event which has shown progress, no matter how slow, seems a bit silly to me.
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I'm pleasantly surprised that the numbers have doubled since Beijing.
I think people have a right to want to see improvement, and to feel impatient. I'm straight and I think this is ridiculous. I can't imagine how I would feel if I was directly impacted by the foolishness of queer-phobias/ignorance.
 
UBERROGO said:
Im actually glad that peoples sexuality in the Olympics isnt being discussed because who cares? Why is it anyones business? Im trying to watch people at the peak of fitness do extraordinary things, not watch a porno.
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I almost saw a pornographic shot while watching the Olympics last night. Poorly fitted uniforms and the like. :(

I think this is worth some discussion, but sometimes I just want to be involved in a sexuality-free activity. It looks like my hope for that kind of activity is slowly fading again. Thanks a lot homosexual community.
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I know. Other people's differences are just such a burden and pain in the ass sometimes, eh?
Jest aside, I feel tired sometimes of the hypersexualization reality that is our world.
 
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Soulful said:
I know. Other people's differences are just such a burden and pain in the ass sometimes, eh?
Jest aside, I feel tired sometimes of the hypersexualization reality that is our world.
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What do you mean by this?
 
As many as there are?
I don't know. There's no number. People should be free to live their lives as they please, not in secrecy and under threat.
 
UBERROGO said:
I didnt say that, you need to edit your post.
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You didn't. No, that was me. I was blessed with that unfortunate expereince.
I thought bolding it would somehow make it obvious that it was commentary, but now that I looked at it it's not at all. I'll take it out. I'm sorry.
UBERROGO said:
What do you mean by this?
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I mean that sex is everywhere and an insidious part of our culture.
 
but maybe that is how many there are.
 
Soulful said:
As many as there are?
I don't know. There's no number. People should be free to live their lives as they please, not in secrecy and under threat.
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I guess the underlying notion is that you dont know that they are living in secret, you are just assuming that there should be more.
 
Well assuming there is a statistical correlate for sexuality, like 10% of a given population will be gay, a certain percentage may be trans, etc.
 
Soulful said:
Well assuming there is a statistical correlate for sexuality, like 10% of a given population will be gay, a certain percentage may be trans, etc.
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It would be nice to see higher numbers closer to the average, but it's not like they're required to disclose their sexuality. Even if their numbers aren't represented, that doesn't mean they're in the closet, either, or that they care that much about whether people know they're trans, bi, lesbian, etc. Their focus is on competing, regardless of whatever goes on in their personal life. For all we know 10% could be LGBT, but as I said the lower number doesn't mean they don't feel free to expose their sexual orientation, it's just that they don't have to and it's not relevant to the competition. To those that have, kudos to them for doing so, but it's still not really necessary. If all 11,000 had been explicitly asked or required to state their preferences (though it would be odd if they had been required to), that would be a different story, but they weren't.
 
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