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I have no problem making eye contact - love it! My eyes are pretty intense and I can often have conversations with people without a word being uttered...but at the same time, I'm able to tone down the intensity for people who are genuinely shy and unable to make eye contact (ie give them space to feel comfortable around me).

For example, if I'm at the check-out register or over the counter at some food joint, as I leave I may look the person directly in the eyes, slightly smile, and say "Thank you" or "See you later" or "Have a good one" etc.

I always make a conscious effort to do this and I really enjoy the "Thanks for acknowledging that I exist" look and smile that I get back in return. :wink:
 
...and I really enjoy the "Thanks for acknowledging that I exist" look and smile that I get back in return. :wink:


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I don't like eye contact unless I'm comfortable with that person. Its too intense for me. I know people like eye contact so I do it. I'll look away and "check in" from time to time. It gets exhausting if the conversation goes for too long. But I do have social anxiety, so it could be why I dislike it so much.
 
Eye contact is difficult on many levels, especially considering the fact that eyeballs are like liquid personality conductors and can convey more emotion and private information in one glance than the combination of words and facial expressions could ever muster. I'm reminded of a scene I witnessed a handful of years ago when my family flew in to visit me during a summer break. We were just finishing up touring a zoo in my college town and making our way through the exhibits of a very crowded primate house. As if out of nowhere, my mom, grandfather, and I all honed in on a solitary chimpanzee leaning statuesque against the display glass, it's back facing the seething crowd, looking morosely over its shoulder - seemingly at us. Recalling it now, I can't accurately say if it was even looking at us per se, just that we were in line with its projected suffering. Those brown eyes bored a hole into my memory and froze me in place while a seemingly implacable crowd whirled by. The raw feeling and clear communication in that look alarmed me.

For me personally, I needlessly concern myself with eye contact being shy and reserved about opening up to others. In the initial anxiety and self-consciousness of meeting a stranger, say over a drink or for a formal interview, I feel overly concerned and protective of what's mine, who I am, what I mistakenly believe differentiates me from that person across from me. That social tension quickly evaporates with the first shared laugh, as if it never existed to begin with. And like the chimpanzee in his glass box, I have to remember that eye contact is powerful precisely because it is meant to connect us.
 
Eye contact is difficult on many levels, especially considering the fact that eyeballs are like liquid personality conductors and can convey more emotion and private information in one glance than the combination of words and facial expressions could ever muster. I'm reminded of a scene I witnessed a handful of years ago when my family flew in to visit me during a summer break. We were just finishing up touring a zoo in my college town and making our way through the exhibits of a very crowded primate house. As if out of nowhere, my mom, grandfather, and I all honed in on a solitary chimpanzee leaning statuesque against the display glass, it's back facing the seething crowd, looking morosely over its shoulder - seemingly at us. Recalling it now, I can't accurately say if it was even looking at us per se, just that we were in line with its projected suffering. Those brown eyes bored a hole into my memory and froze me in place while a seemingly implacable crowd whirled by. The raw feeling and clear communication in that look alarmed me.

For me personally, I needlessly concern myself with eye contact being shy and reserved about opening up to others. In the initial anxiety and self-consciousness of meeting a stranger, say over a drink or for a formal interview, I feel overly concerned and protective of what's mine, who I am, what I mistakenly believe differentiates me from that person across from me. That social tension quickly evaporates with the first shared laugh, as if it never existed to begin with. And like the chimpanzee in his glass box, I have to remember that eye contact is powerful precisely because it is meant to connect us.

Wonderful thoughts. Thank you
 
Sometimes I daydream and forget that I'm staring into people's eyes, and I think it makes them uncomfortable. I try to keep eye contact when I talk to people, and I'm better at it now than I was in the past.
 
A funny thing happens these days when in Zoom meetings with colleagues - you can see their eyes dart around the screen as they focus on different people in the room, and yet you're never quite sure who they're looking at.

Sometimes you'll figure out that they're looking at someone other than the current speaker, and you'll wonder why.

It's a strange experience to be aware of how the normal rules of eyeline are being subverted or ignored in favour of something much more brazenly voyeuristic.
 
To revive an old thread circa 2020 about eye contact:

I went on a reddit post today but unfortunately I can't find it again because for some reason reddit appears differently on the phone app vs online. The question was something like "what do people do often that you think it unnecessary" or "uncomfortable" or something like that and the first response with all the upvotes was "excessive eye contact".

I've had what people would probably call PTSD though I've just pushed through it, but I used to dissociate quiet a bit. What I've noticed is that in social situations I'll look at someone and then I'll go into like a perceiving mode where I'm not really thinking about much at all while the person is speaking and it feels almost a little bit like dissociation and then occasionally I see their body language and I've somehow intimidated them or freaked them out or godknows what. I think it would be to awkward to ask them directly what they felt. The person on the receiving end doesn't go running from the conversation and usually they come back around again and the non-verbal communication returns to a normal state but I definitely get a response out of them (accidentally of course) Anyway, just wondering if this is a thing whether it be INFJ or human or whether maybe it is actual dissociation. Perhaps this is the INFJ intensity thing but one thing is for sure I'm not really thinking anything much as I'm doing it, so my eyes are very fixed and kind of empty I guess.
 
What I've noticed is that in social situations I'll look at someone and then I'll go into like a perceiving mode where I'm not really thinking about much at all while the person is speaking and it feels almost a little bit like dissociation

Yeah I've always done this periodically. I just apologize and tell people I was zoning out, which is essentially true.
Sometimes I've spooked people because I don't realize I'm staring.
Not always at the person I'm interacting with but sometimes at some other distant person, which concerns the person I'm interacting with.
In reality my brain is just absorbing and integrating literally everything around me.
 
I look into people's eyes when listening, or saying something personal to them. When I'm thinking silently, or out loud, I seem to look past or through people, like gazing at something on the horizon.

Some friends and family say that I look like I'm peering into the universe, or the heavens when I'm talking about something I'm interested in, and when I focus back on them it makes them feel small and a bit unnerved. For my part, it isn't anything deliberate. It's more like my sense of sight goes into passive mode (where I'm not looking at anything consciously), when I'm thinking.

I'm INTJ
 
I look into people's eyes when listening, or saying something personal to them. When I'm thinking silently, or out loud, I seem to look past or through people, like gazing at something on the horizon.

Some friends and family say that I look like I'm peering into the universe, or the heavens when I'm talking about something I'm interested in, and when I focus back on them it makes them feel small and a bit unnerved. For my part, it isn't anything deliberate. It's more like my sense of sight goes into passive mode (where I'm not looking at anything consciously), when I'm thinking.

I'm INTJ
Yah I figured it was probably an Ni / introverted intuitive thing. It still amazes me that so little of the general public are this way inclined and we always end up being the eccentric ones or at least slightly eccentric.
 
In reality my brain is just absorbing and integrating literally everything around me.

People think I stare. I'm not at all. I think I just look at everything with intensity like Wyote noted above. It isn't quite zoning out. I'm paying attention to the person speaking. I do it when I just look at my surroundings, too. Men approach me because of this, and I've also been told off for it a few times. This has created an awkward habit where I look around at everything except the people.

Sometimes I think men just use it as an excuse, too, like, "I saw you notice I exist, therefore etc."
 
I definitely lose sharp awareness of the faces of the people I'm talking to if what I'm saying needs more than trivial effort to put it into words. I'm hypersensitive to eye contact though, so I glance at people repeatedly in conversation rather than maintaining eye contact. When I start to lose awareness of them slightly if I'm very focused on what I'm saying, I'm more likely to scan over them with my eyes rather than go into a fixed stare. If I did stare someone in the face in those situations without realising it, my sensitivity is such that it would interrupt the flow of my thought, and I'd look away pretty quickly. Which is all just as well because it's probably hard for folks to tell which eye I'm looking at them with - I have an outward cast in my right eye which would look dead weird if I stared at someone. It's possible that my right eye could be staring at someone by accident while I'm focusing hard on something with my left and that would be really weird for them - I wouldn't notice that at all. It's not an extreme cast, though it has diverged a little more as I've got older, so that may mean people aren't quite sure what my eyes are doing rather than it being obvious :tearsofjoy:
 
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Funny to see this thread revived! :)

I have a different take on eye contact today. As a society, we've grown weary and more aware of how we relate to people in public. I find myself avoiding eye contact unless I am looking at someone directly in a social situation. I may look in the general direction but I avoid looking at someone for long periods. I remember when it was more common for people to look or even stare at others in interest, etc. without saying anything to anyone, and of course, that can make someone uncomfortable or appear rude.

The other aspect is showing interest, attraction or romantic interest, in someone. I remember when it was ok without being imposing to look at people if you noticed someone and thought them attractive, now this may be considered harassment if you look too long. I agree that this can make someone uncomfortable even if it may be well-intentioned. But now, I feel so self-conscious about making eye contact unless required for fear that I may make someone uncomfortable or show interest in someone who doesn't want it. I avoid direct eye contact lately.

Thing is, eye contact can mean so much or so little. I find today though that eye contact means less personal, less intimate, or authentic. Much of this is also cultural. I remember, when I was younger, cultural speaking (Caribbean), you weren't supposed to look directly too often especially if you're looking at someone of a different gender because it was seen as flirting or attracting attention. On the other hand, today, because of the customer service eye contact practices where it is required or expected, people use eye contact to make clients, customers, or guests, feel really special or pleasant which is nice, especially if it's genuine, but it can also feel forced, like a facade. It's not real. In other situations, eye contact with some people is like being given a glazed look. They will look at you, but they are really seeing you or truly interested. And sometimes, people seem to just want the attention of others' eye contact but they are really not interested in showing that genuine interest in others.

When listening in a conversation, good eye contact is important because you want the person to feel you have their attention and you want them to feel that what they say is important. However, it shouldn't be one-sided. Attention given and received through eye contact should be balanced, I think, especially in a relationship. Honestly, I kinda think it's sad how we relate to each other today. Because of technology, we are more likely to look down or focus our eye contact only on those in our general space. Once upon a time, when technology wasn't something that was rampant, catching someone's eye easily turned into a conversation or chat. Now, it wasn't something to be avoided. We are all just doing our own thing. We don't really see people we way we once did.

Understandably, the pandemic has of course changed how we communicate and relate. However, being isolated or avoidant in communication has made it harder for us to know how to interact with people. We are generally more awkward and afraid. Of course, security and safety matter more to us today. I think the professional requirements of eye contact today make it less authentic and real. Sadly, I don't think it is as genuine as it once was.

Anyway, things and times change. Technology has significantly changed our communication and we can't turn back the clock. Well, should be interesting to see how body language evolves over the next decade.
 
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We must, which is fine with me, make eye contact where I work. Sometimes I feel I can see right inside them by their reactions. I have met some beautiful women, both inside and out, I feel graced to have talked with. One asked me to leave work and go fishing right then with her. Had I not been married, I would have gone with her.

Edit to say it was difficult doing this before that job. Some would make me feel nervous, which was a physical reaction . Some would make me feel wonderful. Yet, my eyes would wander away often. It was like self-protection.
 
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Well it depends a lot! My eyes do reveal a loooooot!
When I listen to someone, i mostly look them in the eyes, because its letting them know that I am focused on what they say. But if I am telling something, I catch myself looking in one or two directions and sometimes in the eyes of the listener.
I can stare when I am super angry!
I cant look at my crush in the eyes for long (usually). I am not saying the eyes are the gate to the soul, but I kinda do think so :). I did an experiment once where two people (a group of 26 strangers) had to sit in front of each other and look each other in the eyes for one minute. And the results were super interesting and similar. There were two pair that let each other "in" and told about, that they shared a very intimate moment where they actually felt like touching, reading and kind of understanding each other. But those who had a partner that didnt feel comfortable to let the other person "in" even tho sometimes one of them was open to it, they said they didnt feel anything and some said they felt like the other person wasnt ready or comfortable to let them "in". So... the eyes seem to be a very mysterious part! And to me, I think our eyes are able to share what we feel and maybe if we let it happen give someone a glimps of our soul.
 
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A lot has been said about retail requirements for eye contact.

I presume it's mostly a no brain way to indicate one is paying attention to the customer. Perhaps it's especially important to sensors, who may expect visual cues that they're being paid attention.

To me, I'd rather interact with a retailer who listens carefully, than one who stares at me with blank cow eyes, not responding to my inquiry aptly.
 
I just recently noticed that I would look for meaningful eye contact from others. I would look for warmth or acceptance in eye contact. I could be in a room filled with people and just feel like crying if I didn't have that. Because of this, I feel like I'm a one-on-one type of person, which I honestly don't prefer. I would love to be able to be with a group of people and feel okay. I'm working on it, though, learning how to belong in a group.
 
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I had never really thought about this very much until I learnt I was an INFJ and being mainly around sensors in my life, and usual ignore the INFJ crap. But now I’m more aware of my eyes and notice that with the few intuitives I have met I can almost speak to them through my eyes. It’s cool.
This also makes me think of people who avoid eye contact completely, even when speaking directly to you, by averting their eyes downwards. This was from a person I got on with, so it wasn’t signifying anything negative. Maybe shyness on their part or a reaction to my intense INFJ eyes.