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Adjectives for the Biden Administration today

Need a translator for this one.

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VincentThomas said:
Larry. May I call you that? You have said some things here that say a lot to me. My NI is intact and working flawlessly. That is why I felt triggered to reply to this post. I see right through the Democrat/Communists agenda. I am the kid in the crowd pointing out the naked Emperor. I have been my whole life. Unfortunately, to me, you seem to have fallen for it.
I am an Electrician. I work with my hands. I am a Veteran as well. I went to college on the GI Bill but my Sociology degree didn’t offer a job that would provide me and my family the quality of life I wanted for us all so I went for the trades, where I had been since I was 11. I am solidly “middle class”. I own my own business as an Electrical Contractor. I also was raised by a single father who was on and off the Dole routinely throughout my childhood. He could have worked harder if he wanted to but he chose otherwise. Getting a food basket from the Knights of Columbus at Thanksgiving was an embarrassment to me when I was a kid because I knew we must be poor and there wasn’t really a good reason for it, to me. So “rich Republican” is a title that just doesn’t fit me. Frankly, I reject it.
You bring up God and Jesus to help make your point. If ever there were something in this life that rankles the INFJ to their core it would be or should be Organized Religion. I see right through this agenda as well and seriously wonder how other people seem incapable of doing so. But, hey, as Tom Robbins says, “your belief system should make you feel great about being alive”, if yours does, good for you. My point though is, I don’t buy religion. Your use of it to teach me a lesson is lost on me. It holds no currency. If God doesn’t want Me in Their Heaven, Their loss. Also, I believe that God helps those who help themselves. Do you not?
Seeing as you don’t live in the US, I wanted to say that the word “entitlement” is not mine. It is used to define programs such as Social Security, Child Tax Credit, VA Benefits, Disability, etc.
if you have bothered to read this far, thank you. I know it can be difficult to tolerate an opposing viewpoint. I will leave you with this, as it sums things up on the topics we’ve been discussing. Maybe it will ring true for you, maybe not.
“Give a man a fish, feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish, feed him for life.”
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Yo, yeh you can call me Larry but bro....go back and re-read the posts.....that wasn't me............you and I are on the same page... let's at least keep who said what to whom straight. In what you copied it said "MISTY said".......I'm not Misty!

Other than that your post is well done!
 
VincentThomas said:
You bring up God and Jesus to help make your point. If ever there were something in this life that rankles the INFJ to their core it would be or should be Organized Religion.
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Kinda rankles me that you would confine concepts like God and Jesus to Organized Religion.
 
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I am not a big fan of how we got here but, we may have finally gotten to where this needed to go. Now can this be pulled off without the name calling?
As Margaret Thatcher once famously said: The problem with Socialism is that at some point in time you run out of other peoples money. Communism works great on paper, doesn't work for shite in reality. Capitalism and the free market works as well as anything but, we don't have that. Unless you are from the mid-west (and that may be too broad as well) you probably don't know Dennis Kucinnich. He was the Mayor of Cleveland literally decades ago and was made fun of a LOT. He was then elected a U.S. Representative and, he also ran for President as a Democrat but was WAY to the left before that was fashionable.He got laughed at a lot. The problem was no one bothered to listen to what he was saying (or why). He is VERY intelligent and has a history that "justifies" (not the right word) his positions. He truly understands the problems and his solutions are based on his past (valid way to operate). A lot of peoples problem with his solutions are they are pretty much at least Socialism if not Communism.

Free markets allow for he who builds a better mouse trap can prosper and that everyone is playing on the same level. For instance I know of three different situations where that DID work (and a few million where it didn't) but, when the frackers (yes the evil frackers) come to town it is the free market system in spades (or diamonds if you chose). They have pretty much unlimited cash flow and spend such that it embarrasses drunken sailors. People at McDonalds end up making in access of $20.00 an hour, there is never enough workers for the job at hand. EVERYONE benefits and life is literally good. Right now in a lot of sates a lot of people could, if they chose, make pretty good money if they would get off the governments un-employment incentives and go back to work..

However, as has been pointed out there are several problems with how this is playing out.

The system goes south when someone is successful enough and greedy enough to either try or succeeds in manipulating the free market. The current obvious situation is Amazon simply build enough scale that literally no one else can compete. The other classic example is Walmart. One small store and then expand. The were able to expand initially because they refused to pay the 10-15% commission to the representatives selling the merchandise from the manufacturers. That screwed the reps out of their living AND gave them a 10% advantage in pricing. Then they decided to get into the drug business. Build the locations and offer drugs at a price below their cost or fair market value (not legal). The Government took them to court and won, it is indeed ILLEGAL. However, the small mom and pop shops are out of business literally never to return and the fine for doing this can be absorbed by Walmart quickly and with the competition out of the way they can make even more money and raise prices. So then they moved on to selling gasoline. Same deal over again, build the locations sell the gas for less than market value and put the competition out of business. Government takes them to court again, wins and gets a large fine. Again the little guy is gone with no chance of returning, the fine Walmart can make up in probably less than a year and then has more of the Gasoline market to themselves. THAT IS NOT THE FREE MARKET WORKING.

I think the Walmart example although grievous, is pennies on the dollar. The real criminals are the investment banks, Chase, Citi Group, J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc. I won't go thru all of the details but the reason gas was at $5.00 a gallon the last time was Investment banks buying oil futures contracts, taking delivery of the oil and reducing what was available for the consumer. When the Government re-outlawed the investment banks playing in the futures market the price fell (and then went further because of games Russia and the Saudis were playing). At one very brief moment oil went from the user paying to get it to the producers paying the users to take it.

The purest Capitalists think the free market will correct these problems (it won't and hasn't), the left then inserts that Socialism will correct the situation (as well never has and never will). The flip side of Communism is what we have here....a few people essentially not playing by the rules to make themselves more powerful and more wealthy.


Regardless of your thoughts on immigration allowing more people into any country that doesn't have work for those people LOWERS THE PAY SCALE. Employers do not have to pay as much for labor when there is too much of labor to go around.
 
Misty said:
I was talking to someone else entirely, haha. I was talking to Larry, who I believe has stated before that he also has faith, and that is why I discussed the scriptural viewpoint with him on the topics he addressed me with.

But to respond, I understand your plight. I understand that you were raised by a single parent, I'm one of those. I also understand your country, as it is my country too. I was born and raised in the States and moved to Europe as a grown woman. I went to college in the States full time carrying a 4.0 Gpa, had my own business who I was the owner \ sole employee of - having clients after or before classes, sometimes both, and did so whilst raising two little girls. I totally understand the value of hard work and support it fully. But sometimes no matter how hard a person or parents work,( especially in capitalist countries ) it's just not enough. Sometimes people become ill, through no fault of their own either mentally or physically. Sometimes people don't have a trade like you did to turn to, or any chance at an education. In such an instance where a person wishes to have a career or to work but is unable, then there is nothing entitled about such tax credits. I don't support the idea of someone just sitting around getting high all day and having it all paid for them. I never said that. I also agree that we teach a man to fish to feed him for a lifetime. But telling people who need help that they're entitled chafes me, because one day most people will be old and need their social security etc, or maybe disability, who knows, and then what? What about during the Corona lockdowns? How many middle class people and even rich upper class business owners found themselves quickly in need of help? That doesn't make them entitled, it makes them human. At least that is the point I was trying to make with Larry.

I do believe in socialism though, because in my opinion it's the only way to make capitalist countries play fair as far as paying hard working people what they deserve, when it doesn't happen wage wise. If people were paid a good and decent wage for their work, regardless of how many degrees they held, there would be zero need for socialism in the first place. Therefor I don't feel sorry when I hear people cry about it.
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1. Yes, I have faith and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ORGANIZED RELIGION. 2. You can remove the "especially in capitalist countries" it doesn't work anywhere someone can put their thunk on the scale and someone always does. 3. You concede if things were "correct" (my term) there would be no need for Socialism.....so why install something that has a very long track record of not working to address a situation that isn't working? Two wrongs don't make a right. So, if one were cynical one might take a different view or look at things differently and then look into why the lockdowns (it had nothing to do with the flu).
 
VincentThomas said:
That is too funny that I called you “Larry”, must’ve missed something.
I agree with so much of what you said here in regard to there being safeguards in place for at risk people. I cannot get with true and complete Socialism on any level though. I served in the military and saw first hand what Socialism would look like where everyone at this level gets paid this much regardless of output. That kind of system just doesn’t bring out the best in people, I think. It certainly de-incentivizes them, again IMO. It also opens up another avenue for a host of abuses to take place and I think we have enough of those already.
I would say this though. Working people need to unite, this is true. But they need to unite with the idea of bringing prosperity to the organization they work for. Otherwise they just come off as parasitic. In that scenario, once the host is dead, there’s nothing left to live off of.
The ONLY way to get working people paid what they deserve is in a free market. Working people just need to know how to leverage their labor for a better wage. Unions are good for this but they can get too greedy.
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What puts people "at risk"?
 
larry806q said:
1. Yes, I have faith and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ORGANIZED RELIGION. 2. You can remove the "especially in capitalist countries" it doesn't work anywhere someone can put their thunk on the scale and someone always does. 3. You concede if things were "correct" (my term) there would be no need for Socialism.....so why install something that has a very long track record of not working to address a situation that isn't working? Two wrongs don't make a right. So, if one were cynical one might take a different view or look at things differently and then look into why the lockdowns (it had nothing to do with the flu).
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It works perfectly in the Netherlands. ^_^
 
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I could certainly be wrong, but having my mention of central banking, commercial banking, and corporatism being by far the greatest contributors to poverty being met with complete silence causes me to think of the short story The Lottery by Shirley Jackson, written in 1947. It was made into a film and I saw it at school in perhaps 8th grade. (By the way, in our carefully conditioned culture, there is no way this film would be shown at a United States public school today.)

https://www.thoughtco.com/analysis-the-lottery-by-shirley-jackson-2990472

When Shirley Jackson's chilling story "The Lottery" was first published in 1948 in The New Yorker, it generated more letters than any work of fiction the magazine had ever published. Readers were furious, disgusted, occasionally curious, and almost uniformly bewildered.

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Plot Summary
"The Lottery" takes place on June 27, a beautiful summer day, in a small New England village where all the residents are gathering for their traditional annual lottery. Though the event first appears festive, it soon becomes clear that no one wants to win the lottery. Tessie Hutchinson seems unconcerned about the tradition until her family draws the dreaded mark. Then she protests that the process wasn't fair. The "winner," it turns out, will be stoned to death by the remaining residents. Tessie wins, and the story closes as the villagers—including her own family members—begin to throw rocks at her.

For me, a huge message of the story is the tendency to poo-poo certain realities that are vast in significance and scope because they are so culturally entrenched. To talk about what ought be done about poverty and the idea of a safety net, in complete absence of by far the main contributors to the problem, is like discussing the incredible height of an ant hill while standing at the base of Mount Everest.

Sheer lunacy.

This video is only 2m long. (Why the whole banking system is a scam - Godfrey Bloom MEP)

 
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If that is the girl I think it is, I saw the video. It made me grimace. It was disgusting.

What a contrast between the woman who claimed Kavanaugh was inappropriate with her and the media all over it and this girl and the media's silence.

Come to think of it:

And here are just a couple of comments:

Houston Wells
2 days ago
The child is now a teen and she confirmed that creepy Joe did pinch her nipple. She is terrified of the news media attention she is now receiving. I pray for her and I hope Biden pays

InfiZell
2 days ago
As I frequently say, if this is what he does in public on camera, imagine what he's done in private. He's an actual monster in so many ways. Pure evil.

Johnathan Pessetti
1 day ago
Yeah I was the one that asked her about it. She has since deleted her TikTok

Houston Wells
1 day ago
@Johnathan Pessetti this type of rapid social media attention can devastate a teen. Many have ended their life over it. I pray she has a strong support system. Her parents may also be afraid of Biden because they may NEED their daughter to remain quiet in order to side step the criminal Biden and his weaponized DOJ

Linda Vee Sado
1 day ago
@Johnathan Pessetti I pray someone else comes forward


Let's see if the media really cares about abused women.
 
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Never underestimate Joe’s ability to really fuck things up. — Barack Hussein Obama 2020

 
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The latest and greatest news from the Biden Administration: The Producer price index (essentially wholesale prices) was up 7.8%, the biggest raise since 2010! That follows June's 7.3% (they are getting better at this). The Consumer price index (the retail version) was up 5.4% on an annualized basis in July! (You now make 5% less than you did before Biden took office).

Not to be out done, the current administration not only gave Afghanistan back to the Taliban, they also provided untold millions in military equipment. They are just so generous.

And then of course is the hot mic recording of Biden's Secretary of Homeland Security (Myorkas) stating very clearly, that what is going on at the southern border is "unsustainable" and has to be stopped. Which also doesn't address the influx of the Covid-19 virus cases.

Then the ironing er, irony of Biden asking the oil producing countries to produce more oil since he shut down our own production capabilities (With gas now over $3.00 a gallon).

But hey - it's all good - Orange man bad is out of there!
 
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Then there's this. You can't make this up.

[sarcasm]Of course, the msm is all over the story.[/sarcasm]

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/...ans-stole-a-different-laptop-crazy-sex-stuff/
In the latest video released showing the “smartest person” Joe Biden knows, his son Hunter Biden is seen naked in bed, talking with a woman identified by the Daily Mail as a prostitute. In the video released Biden is seen telling the woman that a second laptop (not the infamous Delaware computer shop laptop) was stolen from him by Russian drug dealers while in Las Vegas partying, according to the video.

(Video is available in the above-referenced web site.)
 
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