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Black Holes Don't Exist! (remix)

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We got black holes from Relativity; it was Carl Schwarzschild’s solutions of Relativity that gave us black holes.

Let’s step back from what Relativity says for a moment to recognize what Relativity is. Einstein’s Relativity was born of Galileo’s Relativity (better articulated by Newton… -that there are no privileged inertial frames of reference) mixed with the “constancy of light speed” (-that all observers measure light to move at the same speed irrespective of relative motion); Lorentz transformations already existed at the time, the real innovation of Relativity was taking all observations seriously, making time and space malleable whereas in Newtonian Physics light speed would have to be… It’s not wrong! -The universe behaves just as Relativity says, to a reasonable extent. It remains a profound and cherished innovation. Still, we have a very pertinent point to contend with: Relativity is an outline of circumstances…the circumstance of no privileged reference frames mixed with the circumstance of light moving at the same speed for all irrespective of how fast they move relative to each other. These are very real circumstances that exist in our universe, and subsequently we can, shall, and do experience the implications of such circumstances much as Relativity says we should. However, our universe is composed of more than circumstances. Relativity is not talking about particles; Relativity does not consider what we’re actually made of (all the neutrinos, photons, ions, molecules, solar systems…). The extent of Relativity’s scope is circumstance; and yes, Relativity is an astute assessment of what happens in those circumstances, but it is by no means any type of authority on all macro circumstances.

For instance, the notion that nothing can escape Schwarzschild radius after it’s been created, not even light because of escape velocity… It would mean black holes exist. The problem with that is electromagnetism is an afterthought. The theory considers only gravity; within the mathematics Schwarzschild Radius is formed out an idealized ball of gravitation. The universe isn’t made of idealizations, however. The particles of our universe bear both gravitational and electromagnetic traits. Properly and fully understanding the universe necessarily requires incorporating all known traits into our models. It is known gravity is the weakest of all forces, by far. Electromagnetism is 10^36 times stronger than gravity. It follows Schwarzschild radius is 10^36 times more a ball of electromagnetism than it is a ball of gravity. It is a ball of energy! It is the implications of e=mc^2 fully and efficiently realized. As soon as real particles (rather than mathematical gravitation idealisms) are caught within Schwarzschild radius the particles lose cohesion and the radiative energy they’re comprised of is set free. It’s going to produce gamma ray bursts, not singularity*.

Interesting to note that not only robust approach to physics leads that way; observation is likewise very clear about that. You see, modern astrophysics, particle physics, and cosmology is confident about a lot of their knowledge for a lot of good, solidly justified, purely scientific reasons. And there are parts of their story that are pure “fudge factor”, conjecture, wishful thinking. Unfortunately, those iffy parts are seldom properly identified and explained, giving the general public the impression that all claims made by science have equal value. That is not the case.

For instance, supernova, hypernovae, and the whole story behind one star outshining its own galaxy, is not mathematically supported, at all. -the collapse rebound approach and neutrino pressure often cited is conjecture…that fails when scrutinized. Same story with accretion disks powering quasars/galactic jets/active galactic nuclei/Seyferts….- yea, no. Actually, if you look close enough into the plasma physics that governs that realm, you can find proofs that deny that theory outright. The universe cannot power jets with accretion disks -its mathematically untenable. However we can explain both circumstances.

When neutrons get crushed beyond their breaking point their energy gets released from particle state and is freed to roam as radiative energy. How much energy is released is simple: all of it! -as per E=mc^2. We are essentially experimenting with a new definition of “nova”. The idea we are toying with says nova is the energy released by neutrons that get crushed beyond their breaking point. Nova isn’t related to shockwave, it’s a change in the state of matter/energy. It’s exactly what we should expect from mixing matter and antimatter: [POOF!] complete conversion of mass into radiative energy. If we break a neutron, it literally becomes a nova; that outburst of energy is nova. Fun fact: turns out you can power hypernovae and quasars with this approach. And with that we have a mathematically consistent explanation of observation; a feat prevailing theory has yet to achieve.

*(“Singularity” may be taken to read whatever quantum information fluctuation interpretation is being preferred at this moment. Planck length hasn’t permitted singularity to exist within black holes for a while now.)
 
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The rest of the argument; quasars and hypernovae explained:

Consider what if E=mc^2 is the answer to what happens when the universe achieves neutron degeneracy/Schwartzschild radius? I suppose we should start by clarifying what we mean by that. In contrast to the singularity notion that sequesters the mass, we are now going to experiment with releasing the mass. We are going to hypothesize when neutrons get crushed beyond their breaking point their energy gets released from particle state and is freed to roam as radiative energy. How much energy is released is simple: all of it! -as per E=mc^2. We are essentially experimenting with a new definition of “nova”. The idea we are toying with says nova is the energy released by neutrons that get crushed beyond their breaking point. Nova isn’t related to shockwave, it’s a change in the state of matter/energy. It’s exactly what we should expect from mixing matter and antimatter: poof! -complete conversion of mass into radiative energy. If we break a neutron, it literally becomes a nova; that outburst of energy is nova.

Okay, we have a different definition of “nova” to test out; one where we think neutron degeneracy means the mass of the particle gets released as radiative energy. What is a supernova then? Say we have a supermassive star that’s collapsing. We know it’s going to achieve Schwarzschild radius in the core. Within our current thought experiment, that means all the mass in the core will be converted into radiative energy, as per E=mc^2. That is a huge amount of radiative energy. Stars shine thanks to nucleosynthesis, or fusion, by turning lighter elements into heavier elements. They manage to scrape off a minute portion of the mass in the process and use that energy to shine. But in our supernova here, it is utilizing all of the mass of those particles. That is seriously a huge amount of energy. Complete conversion of mass into energy within Schwarzschild Radius would produce enough energy for one star to outshine an entire galaxy. Hmm, perhaps that’s how supernova can be so intense: they got a better energy source. It seems as though our new concept is doing okay so far. It just neatly explained something that couldn’t be explained previously. [Incidentally, Gamma Ray Bursts are the signature of “nova”. Maximum intensity in visible wavelengths is not as directly related to the collapse as the GRBs are.]

Quasars/active galactic nuclei are the most energetic objects in the universe. Prevailing theory cannot explain this intensity but our new found definition of nova can. Gravitational acceleration of accretion disks is a wholly insufficient explanation of the origin of cosmic jets, it fails by magnitudes; if cosmic jets were an ocean, accretion disks could barely power a puddle. Conversion of mass into pure energy as per E=mc^2 can explain their intensity, however. If we dug deep enough we would find that’s the only way it can be explained. No other mechanism known to science could produce the amount of energy we observe emanating from those structures.

The cores of quasars [“active” galaxies, like our own] are insanely massive, far bigger than any star we’ve discussed above. And because of that, they have a much more stable structure. A supernova is a firecracker by comparison. These celestial bodies largely maintain their structure while burning incredible amounts of neutrons in the core. These things don’t thrive on nucleosynthesis like most stars do, these guys are powered by nova; they maintain Schwarzschild radius! Supernovae only get to experience that highly energetic state for a brief period of time, quasars live there. Active quasars are able to maintain their jets because they are being continuously being fed by the rest of their Galaxy. If we give it some thought, we might see the core of a quasar is bound to be the craziest place in the universe. It is somewhat like a laser in there, only made of the most unusual medium you can imagine: pure energy! In its simplest terms, a laser is a mirrored box that you pump some energy into until whatever is trapped inside resonates. Lasers can be made of various different states of matter, including pure energy. Everything caught within Schwarzschild radius is pure energy, and being stuck in the center of a quasar means that energy’s chances of escape are severely compromised. We have a case of full-spectrum resonance occurring in a medium of pure energy. That is, without a doubt, some craziness! Most of the energy that does manages to escape does so at the weakest points in the system, along the magnetic poles, contributing to the cosmic jets.
That treatment of quasars was excessively short and sweet, and probably needs to be elaborated on, but it made a significant achievement! It could be purely circumstantial, but our thought experiment just wrote out the most clear, concise, and comprehensive description of quasars known to humanity. And while brief, the story it tells matches the story observation tells us better than any other theory. Actually, that’s the only viable model of quasars humanity has ever produced; before this, humanity didn’t have a plausible explanation. I’m beginning to suspect our thought experiment is turning up something valid. Wait a second, we have a new observation coming in!!! That will certainly help us sort out what’s going on here.

“Just about a year ago, astronomers from Ohio State University using an optical telescope in Hawaii discovered a star that was being pulled from its normal path and heading for a supermassive black hole. Because of that exciting find, scientists have now for the first time witnessed a black hole swallow a star and then, well, belch! When a black hole burps, it quickly ejects a flare of stellar debris moving at nearly light speed, a very rare and dazzling event.

Astrophysicists tracked the star—about the size of our sun—as it shifted from its customary path, slipped into the gravitational pull of a supermassive black hole, and was sucked in, says Sjoert van Velzen, a Hubble fellow at Johns Hopkins University.

“These events are extremely rare,” says van Velzen, lead author of the study published in the journal Science. “It’s the first time we see everything from the stellar destruction followed by the launch of a conical outflow, also called a jet, and we watched it unfold over several months.”
-Courtesy of Science Rocks My World

What is Mother Nature telling us here? Is that observation (and subsequent similar ones) consistent with black hole theory? Um no, it isn’t. The event horizon is not a structure, there is nothing to hit there. And it’s a one way street once you’re inside. The notion that hitting a black hole with something would result in significant signal is ridiculous. What we’re left with is a star passing through a thin and diffuse plasma structure in orbit. That would not produce a cosmic jet. That would be more like trying to submerge a piece of ice in a warm stream. Sure, the plasma in orbit would mess with the star a bit, but a galactic jet is magnitudes more energetic than anything could ever expect from that type of interaction.

This observation provides further support to the validity of the notions within our thought experiment. A massive neutron star on the verge of neutron degeneracy pressures that gets another star dumped on top of it will behave exactly as we see here. The added mass will force particles into Schwarzschild radius, convert those particles into pure radiative energy, create plasma jets, and blow chunks of star at relativistic speeds into the cosmos.

Personally, I trust the universe more than I trust the opinion of humans. Modern theory is telling me one thing, but I can see the universe trying to tell me something else. I’m going to go with the universe on this one. The E=mc^2 approach to redefining nova elegantly explains all known properties of the discussed structures. Not only does the singularity approach fail to provide a clear and concise description of the physics it champions, that approach also undermines the tools needed to explain the physics behind the most energetic objects in the universe. The only physics known to humanity that can explain the intensity of these objects is E=mc^2, nothing else comes close.
And now we sincerely have a mathematically consistent explanation of observation; a feat prevailing theory is not going to be achieve within existing framework.
 
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There's only one authority within physics: "mother nature". And theories are comprised of roughly 2 elements: observation, and interpretation. The theory that is more comprehensive and aligns with observation better is the more accurate theory.period. So yea, these are nothing but opinions...and academia's opinions are not likely to survive them.
 
There's only one authority within physics: "mother nature". And theories are comprised of roughly 2 elements: observation, and interpretation. The theory that is more comprehensive and aligns with observation better is the more accurate theory.period. So yea, these are nothing but opinions...and academia's opinions are not likely to survive them.
I understand. Thank you for your insight... but that's just your opinion.

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I understand. Thank you for your insight... but that's just your opinion.

jk <3
I'm with you on that! -only opinion that matters is mother nature's. Cool part about that is, if you manage to align with mother nature, you'll roll every human in your way. ;)
 
lol Not too far from the truth. hmm, already alienated myself as it is, this couldn't hurt too much. Want a peek into what my world really looks like?
 
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dont blame you man... aint pretty in here. lol
 
I understand. All I can offer is lipstick in the darkness.
woah, man... I mean gender ambigious fellow forumite... I fucked that up, didn't I? :sweatsmile:
Lipstick in the dark... Yea, not much of that in my world. :tearsofjoy:
 
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It's a metaphor that means nothing. I hope I was helpful.
Metaphor? I don't understand it...guessing that means it's being helpful.
 
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