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Is there anyone here who supports Trump? If so, what is your assessment of him and this interview with Chris Wallace from last night?
I'm not looking to debate, I just want to understand how anyone can watch something like this and conclude he's a forthright and honest president that's doing a good job of leading the country. I truly want to understand.
I'm not looking to debate, I just want to understand how anyone can watch something like this and conclude he's a forthright and honest president that's doing a good job of leading the country. I truly want to understand.
Don't have time right now to watch the whole thing, but isn't it (contrary to what he states in the beginning) incredibly rare for incumbents to win this far behind in public favor/polls?
My hypothesis is that we'll be on the precipice of the inevitable dumpster fire of the U.S. economy in Nov, so whoever capitalizes best on that will win.
War is a racket, bigger than Capone could ever dream of
Didn't watch the full video nor am I really a republican but here's my attempt to reply:
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1244367217912881160?s=20
Like I try to remind people about the economy, there's too many different factors effecting case totals that it's hard to decisively locate a single factor leading to success in avoiding this disaster. Does Trump have control over lockdowns? No, he handed that off to the states. Does Trump have control over how many elderly people or people with autoimmune diseases living in America? No. Does Trump have control over how much people have excercised/the nature of their diets/whether or not they smoked for the past half century+? Not really no. Could any leader have control over these things?
If he's deflecting responsibility for something he actually did have control over I don't really see how that sets him apart from any other leader when they fuck up.
I don't think you can really resolve the "Is x person doing a good job leading y country durign the coronavirus?" thing. Because that's opinion not fact. Also you don't have to be doing a great job, just better than the opposition
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1244367217912881160?s=20
Like I try to remind people about the economy, there's too many different factors effecting case totals that it's hard to decisively locate a single factor leading to success in avoiding this disaster. Does Trump have control over lockdowns? No, he handed that off to the states. Does Trump have control over how many elderly people or people with autoimmune diseases living in America? No. Does Trump have control over how much people have excercised/the nature of their diets/whether or not they smoked for the past half century+? Not really no. Could any leader have control over these things?
If he's deflecting responsibility for something he actually did have control over I don't really see how that sets him apart from any other leader when they fuck up.
Lol, the fact is that populist leaders like Trumpf, Johnson and that muppet in Brazil did a terrible job during corona.
Trumpf showed no leadership, he doesn't listen to his scientific advisors, he sent mixed messages regarding the masks all along etc.
Populism completely failed when it really mattered. These people are only skilled at speaking rubbish during the good times.
On the other hand, the most cold and rational response came from female leaders in Germany, New Zealand, Finland, Norway etc.
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There's apparently another guy who was only wrong about two elections that has Trump winning. I have a hard time believing the reliability of these sorts of predictive systems; people can predict one-sided elections and get lucky with the rest.
Yeah, it's just some fun. Still, to be right so many times in a row is statistically significant.
I didn't even see what this guy's model is, but apparently he has 13 criteria for an incumbent party and if they fail on 6 or more they are gonna lose the election. It's interesting that in late 2019 his model still predicted Trump as a winner.
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When Biden speaks about his love for his wife and family, and the heartbreak of losing his first wife, I think it reveals a vast gulf of difference between the two men. Compare with Trump's series of trophy wives and affairs...
The more sincere man here is obvious. He simply must win.
The more sincere man here is obvious. He simply must win.
Yeah, he's got a good speech writer
. He does seem a lot more decent and of better character than Trump, but really - that doesn't say much.
Personally, I don't particularly like him... and I don't know how those sexual harassment accusations got completely shoved under the rug.
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Lol, I wondered that about the speech writer myself, but at least he or she seems to understand his character and what he cares about.Yeah, he's got a good speech writer
He does seem a lot more decent and of better character than Trump, but really - that doesn't say much.
Personally, I don't particularly like him... and I don't know how those sexual harassment accusations got completely shoved under the rug.
He's growing on me. I didn't really find him particularly impressive initially, but he seems to be growing in conviction. There's a decent momentum that's building, and the whole process is going to be transformative for him, too.
I don't know about the sexual harassment rumours, though.
I listened to his speech last night and I honestly was not expecting much. He exceeded my expectations. I think he did a good job of distinguishing himself as someone who wants to unite Americans. When he spoke of his family, I felt he was sincere and appropriate.
Biden seems focused on the positive. Trump resorts to fear. I hope we do not choose more fear.
Maybe I'm a little cynical, but ultimately, I think it'll be largely a fear-based decision on both sides of the aisle.
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Yes exactly.
That's a good point, but it doesn't have to be what his campaign relies on. He seems like he has enough genuine idealism to generate a sincere message of hope and positivity.